--- In [email protected], "sticheau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I read John Hagelin's note and my eye got caught on the words "very > enlightened" as he was describing Tony Nader. As I understand it, > pregnancy, virginity, and enlightenment are pretty exclusive > conditions, as in: you is or you ain't. So, "very enlightened" > snagged my eyes as I read it. My question is simple: is or is not > Tony Nader enlightened?
I don't know if this is a serious question, but if it is, I am curious to know who you think can answer this accurately? >As in: is in the is-or-ain't binary > exclusion. Depends on who you talk to. So many definitions of enlightenment around. I know for some of the people you mention below would say that , you are or you aren't and there's no in-between or partial enlightenment. As in Jed McKenna, Ramana Maharshi, Wayne Liquorman, > Nisargadatta, Guru Dev and MMY enlightenment. As in the "abiding > non-dual state." 'Cause, to use Jed's idea, "if it isn't abiding, it > isn't sh*t." Do you mean that you feel all these people were/are enlightened and that they all fit the same criteria of enlightenment? So, to those deep in the nether regions and in the know, Who is deep in the nether regions and in the know, and how do you know they are?
