On Feb 20, 2008, at 9:35 AM, new.morning wrote:

Thanks for posting this.

Bhagavan: Though the yogi may have his methods of breath-control,
pranayama, mudras, etc., for this object, the jnani's method is only
that of enquiry. When by this method the mind is merged in the Self,
the Self, its sakti or kundalini, rises automatically. (Day by Day -
14-9-45)

The above lays out different strokes for different folks. Different
focus. As did MMM in SBAL -- all the great different ways of
transcending becoming realized.

A question, not a challenge, you (Vaj) seem to dis some methods
because they don't have the G H I J L or M steps that are "critical"
for any true and worthy sadhana. Yet RM is saying, as I think MMY did,
that for example, the jnanis focus on enquiry only, and all else is
done unto them. No need to even be aware of what K or S are.
Therefore, why dis some methods if they take you home via less scenic
routes?


Well, consider Ramana and someone like Nisargadatta--they spent decades perfecting tantric and yogic sadhanas before they could begin any inquiry. If you have the capacity, of course start where you are. The type of person who could go directly to inquiry seems rare indeed.

But I'm probably not the person to ask, I'm not a real big advaita vedanta fan. I'd tend to agree with Nisargadatta who said really prior to inquiry you should have perfected your experience of kundalini. I guess it would also depend on what Ramana means by "jnani": a practitioner of jnana-yoga or someone already with some realization of jnana--or maybe someone who skips stages and jumps immediately to "samashti kundalini": universal shakti, nothing to rise, nothing to guide, no path. For me it all boils down to "know your own condition", then you're all the wiser on how to proceed.

My .02 USD

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