You're a neo-Freudianist, aren't you? This is ironic, because Freud always believed that neuroscience would eventually explain all mental illness...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > OCD is an anxiety disorder. The obsessions and > > > > > compulsions are a defense against an > > emotionally > > > > > disorganized experience. The source of the > > > > > disorganization has to be addressed. > > > > > > > > > > Who says? > > > > > Me. I'm a clinical psychologist. I do this for a > > > living. > > > > Then how come this disorder is found in children at > > nursery school age? And how come this disorder tends > > to run in families? > > > > The fact is, no one knows what causes it. > > No, that's not true. I'm discussing the psychodymanics > of the mind: defenses and self-organization. Of course > there is a genetic component. And why do you see my > rather cursory explanation contradicted by school age > children with this diagnosis? I'll discuss this with > you, but unless you have a mental health background > you do not have enough foundational knowledge to > discuss this in any informed manner. I'm not trying to > be arrogant, but without training and experience with > the mentally ill it's just opinion and not > understanding. Sorry! In the same way, whatever your > field of expertise is, I wouldn't try to contradict > you or offer a critique because I don't know enough > about it beyond mere opionion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > Sutphen > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > "sparaig" > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > "Phil > > > > > > Goldberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Another interpretation of the > > observation > > > > below > > > > > > about the use of > > > > > > > antidepressants: a lot of TM veterans > > might > > > > have > > > > > > been clinically > > > > > > > depressed for years and hoping that the > > > > program > > > > > > would cure the > > > > > > problem - > > > > > > > - and/or assuming that getting help for > > the > > > > > > condition was > > > > > > > somehow "unspiritual." In which case, > > > finally > > > > > > doing something > > > > > > about it > > > > > > > may be a sign of maturity as much as > > > > > > disillusionment with the TMO. > > > > > > By > > > > > > > the way, I say this because I spoke to a > > > > scientist > > > > > > who recently > > > > > > > published a study on the use of > > > > antidepressants > > > > > > among long-term > > > > > > > Buddhist meditators, so it's not unique to > > > the > > > > TM > > > > > > world. This, of > > > > > > > course, does not in any way diminish the > > > very > > > > real > > > > > > despair caused > > > > > > by > > > > > > > finding out the emperor has fewer clothes > > > than > > > > one > > > > > > imagined. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm on prozac and my son is on something > > > else. > > > > We > > > > > > both meditate and > > > > > > > swear by it. That we have something a bit > > > > tougher > > > > > > than TM by itself > > > > > > can > > > > > > > handle doesn't invalidate TM. I was told > > to > > > go > > > > to > > > > > > sleep by 9PM > > > > > > every > > > > > > > night and I almost never do. Maybe TM + > > 9PM > > > > > > bedtime would be > > > > > > enough, > > > > > > > who can say? > > > > > > > > > > > > According to Mahaaraaja Nader Raama's book > > > yoga > > > > is > > > > > > "connected" > > > > > > to the cerebral cortex. I wonder if that's > > why > > > > > > meditation is > > > > > > not necessarily very effective in treating > > > > primarily > > > > > > emotional > > > > > > problems, like depression. OTOH, I seem to > > > > recall > > > > > > you use fluoxetine > > > > > > for OCD, or stuff. But I guess there might > > be > > > a > > > > > > strong emotional > > > > > > component in OCD, too. > > > > > > > > > > OCD is an anxiety disorder. The obsessions and > > > > > compulsions are a defense against an > > emotionally > > > > > disorganized experience. The source of the > > > > > disorganization has to be addressed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who says? > > > > > > Me. I'm a clinical psychologist. I do this for a > > > living. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Or go to: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Discover Yahoo! > > > Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news > > and > > > more. 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