--- gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Not school age, rather pre-school age. I mentioned > that this can occur at a very early age to point out > that it is quite possible that people are born with > this, or the tendency to develop this. It seemed > like > your first post dismissed the possibility of a > physiologic or inherited cause altogether. It was too cursory response. No, I see most of the psychological disorders as psycho-physiological: the whole mind/brain perspective. > I would not ordinarily view the "psychodymanics > of the mind: defenses and self-organization", as you > say, to be be much an issue with one and two year > old > children. But that's not my field, and I am > interested > if you believe these psychodynamics start that > early. The organization of the personality starts as soon as there is a viable nervous system; it starts pre-natally. The formation is most intense from birth to about 5 or 6 years. The psyches of 2 years olds are very, very active! > > --- Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > --- gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > OCD is an anxiety disorder. The obsessions > > and > > > > > > compulsions are a defense against an > > > emotionally > > > > > > disorganized experience. The source of the > > > > > > disorganization has to be addressed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who says? > > > > > > > Me. I'm a clinical psychologist. I do this for > a > > > > living. > > > > > > Then how come this disorder is found in children > > at > > > nursery school age? And how come this disorder > > tends > > > to run in families? > > > > > > The fact is, no one knows what causes it. > > > > No, that's not true. I'm discussing the > > psychodymanics > > of the mind: defenses and self-organization. Of > > course > > there is a genetic component. And why do you see > my > > rather cursory explanation contradicted by school > > age > > children with this diagnosis? I'll discuss this > with > > you, but unless you have a mental health > background > > you do not have enough foundational knowledge to > > discuss this in any informed manner. I'm not > trying > > to > > be arrogant, but without training and experience > > with > > the mentally ill it's just opinion and not > > understanding. Sorry! In the same way, whatever > your > > field of expertise is, I wouldn't try to > contradict > > you or offer a critique because I don't know > enough > > about it beyond mere opionion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > > Sutphen > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- cardemaister > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > > "sparaig" > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > "Phil > > > > > > > Goldberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Another interpretation of the > > > observation > > > > > below > > > > > > > about the use of > > > > > > > > antidepressants: a lot of TM veterans > > > might > > > > > have > > > > > > > been clinically > > > > > > > > depressed for years and hoping that > the > > > > > program > > > > > > > would cure the > > > > > > > problem - > > > > > > > > - and/or assuming that getting help > for > > > the > > > > > > > condition was > > > > > > > > somehow "unspiritual." In which case, > > > > finally > > > > > > > doing something > > > > > > > about it > > > > > > > > may be a sign of maturity as much as > > > > > > > disillusionment with the TMO. > > > > > > > By > > > > > > > > the way, I say this because I spoke to > a > > > > > scientist > > > > > > > who recently > > > > > > > > published a study on the use of > > > > > antidepressants > > > > > > > among long-term > > > > > > > > Buddhist meditators, so it's not > unique > > to > > > > the > > > > > TM > > > > > > > world. This, of > > > > > > > > course, does not in any way diminish > the > > > > very > > > > > real > > > > > > > despair caused > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > finding out the emperor has fewer > > clothes > > > > than > > > > > one > > > > > > > imagined. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm on prozac and my son is on > something > > > > else. > > > > > We > > > > > > > both meditate and > > > > > > > > swear by it. That we have something a > > bit > > > > > tougher > > > > > > > than TM by itself > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > handle doesn't invalidate TM. I was > told > > > to > > > > go > > > > > to > > > > > > > sleep by 9PM > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > night and I almost never do. Maybe TM > + > > > 9PM > > > > > > > bedtime would be > > > > > > > enough, > > > > > > > > who can say? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to Mahaaraaja Nader Raama's > book > > > > yoga > > > > > is > > > > > > > "connected" > > > > > > > to the cerebral cortex. I wonder if > that's > > > why > > > > > > > meditation is > > > > > > > not necessarily very effective in > treating > > > > > primarily > > > > > > > emotional > > > > > > > problems, like depression. OTOH, I seem > to > > > > > recall > > > > > > > you use fluoxetine > > > > > > > for OCD, or stuff. But I guess there > might > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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