How many American agree with minister Wright?  How many people in this chat 
room agree with him?  
   
  I may not agree 100% but I agree with about 95% of what he says in the 
printed speach.   Do I think George Bush conspired to and helped to plan 9/11 
YES.   
   
  Do I think AMerica iver supports Israel and under support any of the other 
countries of that region YES.  
   
  DO I think that African American people need self empowerment?  YES is that 
the same as saying WHITE EMPOWERMENT no not at all, why? Because African 
AMerican's have had to come back from and reprogram the effect of Slavery and 
the Jim Crow South WHite americans have not.   The people who spoke about White 
Empowerment in the US have done so at the expense of others.
   
  Particularly the American Black men and women.   The Slave The Nigger and the 
fact that this is the case calls for stronger languages from African AMericans. 
  
   
  Is the African American correct in claiming that the WHite AMerican is 
Racist.   As a general statement it is as correct as the Jew saying that ALl 
Natzis hate Jews.
   
  When whipping is a trained behavior and not a obtained one it should be easy 
to understand why some one might say the Empowerment of ourselves as Africans 
in America.  
   
  How many people here are sick of movies about the Holocaust?    I am yet for 
Jews they will make a new movie every year about it in order to make sure that 
it does not happen again.  Yet for a Black man to discuss the racism, torture 
and absolute insanity of the American SLave trade this is considered reverse 
racism.  
   
  There is genetically engineered food, animals given all kinds of drugs 
hormones and othe chemicals, water with drugs in it.   Why would anyone find it 
antagonistic for someone to think the US manufactured the Aids Virus?
   
  In 2001 George Bush either allowed or enacted the attacks of 9/11 which 
killed more than 3000 people.   He attacked Afganistan and in 2003 attacked 
Iraq and neither country, neither attack has lead to the capture of the person 
they claim /US GOV caused 9/11.  So why is it a problem for the man to state 
the truth.
   
  AM I anti Semetic? NO but am I anti monopolization of the banking system ? 
Yes, DO I feel like Israel is truly the land of Jews ? only because some body 
said so.

  So why is this a problem Has anyone here ever used or Heard the word 
Schwartza?   Have AIonist ever done anything questionable?  Is any kind of 
Manipulative monopolization a problem I believe YES A BIG PROBLEM  Is this anti 
Semetic?  I believe not.  It is like saying no I do not want you to pull my 
pants down and put that butter on my A-hole does that make me some negative 
radical element?  I hope not.
Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  every church has a freaky pastor - that's why I stay away from those
places.

--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
wrote:
>
> If the facts in this article are true, not only will he not be 
> elected president, he won't get the nomination REGARDLESS of how many 
> delegates he has.
> 
> ---------------------------------------------
> 
> from: http://tinyurl.com/2xtfub
> 
> OPINION 
> 
> 
> Obama and the Minister
> By RONALD KESSLER
> March 14, 2008; Page A19
> 
> In a sermon delivered at Howard University, Barack Obama's longtime 
> minister, friend and adviser blamed America for starting the AIDS 
> virus, training professional killers, importing drugs and creating a 
> racist society that would never elect a black candidate president.
> 
> The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., pastor of Mr. Obama's Trinity United 
> Church of Christ in Chicago, gave the sermon at the school's Andrew 
> Rankin Memorial Chapel in Washington on Jan. 15, 2006.
> 
> 
> Trinity United Church of Christ/Religion News Service 
> Sen. Barack Obama and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright 
> "We've got more black men in prison than there are in college," he 
> began. "Racism is alive and well. Racism is how this country was 
> founded and how this country is still run. No black man will ever be 
> considered for president, no matter how hard you run Jesse [Jackson] 
> and no black woman can ever be considered for anything outside what 
> she can give with her body."
> 
> Mr. Wright thundered on: "America is still the No. 1 killer in the 
> world. . . . We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the 
> exporting of guns, and the training of professional killers . . . We 
> bombed Cambodia, Iraq and Nicaragua, killing women and children while 
> trying to get public opinion turned against Castro and Ghadhafi . . . 
> We put [Nelson] Mandela in prison and supported apartheid the whole 
> 27 years he was there. We believe in white supremacy and black 
> inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God."
> 
> His voice rising, Mr. Wright said, "We supported Zionism shamelessly 
> while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out 
> against it as being anti-Semitic. . . . We care nothing about human 
> life if the end justifies the means. . . ."
> 
> Concluding, Mr. Wright said: "We started the AIDS virus . . . We are 
> only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third 
> World people live in grinding poverty. . . ."
> 
> Considering this view of America, it's not surprising that in 
> December Mr. Wright's church gave an award to Louis Farrakhan for 
> lifetime achievement. In the church magazine, Trumpet, Mr. Wright 
> spoke glowingly of the Nation of Islam leader. "His depth on analysis 
> [sic] when it comes to the racial ills of this nation is astounding 
> and eye-opening," Mr. Wright said of Mr. Farrakhan. "He brings a 
> perspective that is helpful and honest."
> 
> After Newsmax broke the story of the award to Farrakhan on Jan. 14, 
> Mr. Obama issued a statement. However, Mr. Obama ignored the main 
> point: that his minister and friend had spoken adoringly of Mr. 
> Farrakhan, and that Mr. Wright's church was behind the award to the 
> Nation of Islam leader.
> 
> Instead, Mr. Obama said, "I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every 
> form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by 
> Minister Farrakhan. I assume that Trumpet magazine made its own 
> decision to honor Farrakhan based on his efforts to rehabilitate ex-
> offenders, but it is not a decision with which I agree." Trumpet is 
> owned and produced by Mr. Wright's church out of the church's 
> offices, and Mr. Wright's daughters serve as publisher and executive 
> editor.
> 
> Meeting with Jewish leaders in Cleveland on Feb. 24, Mr. Obama 
> described Mr. Wright as being like "an old uncle who sometimes will 
> say things that I don't agree with." He rarely mentions the points of 
> disagreement.
> 
> Mr. Obama went on to explain Mr. Wright's anti-Zionist statements as 
> being rooted in his anger over the Jewish state's support for South 
> Africa under its previous policy of apartheid. As with his previous 
> claim that his church gave the award to Mr. Farrakhan because of his 
> work with ex-offenders, Mr. Obama appears to have made that up.
> 
> Neither the presentation of the award nor the Trumpet article about 
> the award mentions ex-offenders, and Mr. Wright's statements 
> denouncing Israel have not been qualified in any way. Mr. Obama 
> nonetheless told the Jewish leaders that the award to Mr. 
> Farrakhan "showed a lack of sensitivity to the Jewish community." 
> That is an understatement.
> 
> As for Mr. Wright's repeated comments blaming America for the 9/11 
> attacks because of what Mr. Wright calls its racist and violent 
> policies, Mr. Obama has said it sounds as if the minister was trying 
> to be "provocative."
> 
> Hearing Mr. Wright's venomous and paranoid denunciations of this 
> country, the vast majority of Americans would walk out. Instead, Mr. 
> Obama and his wife Michelle have presumably sat through numerous 
> similar sermons by Mr. Wright.
> 
> Indeed, Mr. Obama has described Mr. Wright as his "sounding board" 
> during the two decades he has known him. Mr. Obama has said he found 
> religion through the minister in the 1980s. He joined the church in 
> 1991 and walked down the aisle in a formal commitment of faith.
> 
> The title of Mr. Obama's bestseller "The Audacity of Hope" comes from 
> one of Wright's sermons. Mr. Wright is one of the first people Mr. 
> Obama thanked after his election to the Senate in 2004. Mr. Obama 
> consulted Mr. Wright before deciding to run for president. He prayed 
> privately with Mr. Wright before announcing his candidacy last year.
> 
> Mr. Obama obviously would not choose to belong to Mr. Wright's church 
> and seek his advice unless he agreed with at least some of his views. 
> In light of Mr. Wright's perspective, Michelle Obama's comment that 
> she feels proud of America for the first time in her adult life makes 
> perfect sense.
> 
> Much as most of us would appreciate the symbolism of a black man 
> ascending to the presidency, what we have in Barack Obama is a 
> politician whose closeness to Mr. Wright underscores his radical 
> record.
> 
> The media have largely ignored Mr. Obama's close association with Mr. 
> Wright. This raises legitimate questions about Mr. Obama's 
> fundamental beliefs about his country. Those questions deserve a 
> clearer answer than Mr. Obama has provided so far.
> 
> Mr. Kessler, a former Wall Street Journal and Washington Post 
> reporter, is chief Washington correspondent of Newsmax.com and the 
> author of "The Terrorist Watch: Inside the Desperate Race to Stop the 
> Next Attack" (Crown Forum, 2007).
>



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