> > > Anyway, it changes nothing as the crime of ethnic > > > cleansing is still real whatevwer you want to call > > > the place. > > > > > But don't the Arabs want to annihilate the Jewish > > population? That would be ethnic cleansing. But the > > Israelis don't want to kill all the Arabs - in fact, > > don't many Arabs live in modern Israel? And didn't > > the Israelis sign an agreement to a the creation of > > a new 'Palestinian' state? What happened? Why wasn't > > that good enough for you or Hamas? > > Richard Hughes wrote: > I don't want to destroy anyone, but you won't sort the > problem out by lying about it's origins. > The West Bank is Jordan and the Gaza strip is Egypt. Israel has signed peace treaties with both Egypt and Jordan. Isn't that the truth?
So, what, exactly, besides getting thousnads of people killed in three wars, has Egypt and Jordan done for the Arab people living in the West Bank and Gaza? "Jordan annexed what became known as the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel > The Palestinian state was rejected because the refugees > were denied the right of return, which is theirs under > UN law. > After World War I, the League of Nations approved the British Mandate of Palestine with the intent of creating a "national home for the Jewish people." That seems pretty clear to me. Now why would the League of Nations create a "homeland for the Jewish people" instead of a "homeland for the Jordanian and Egyptian Arabs' - maybe because they already had a home, namely Jordan and Egypt. And why is it that the British get to call the land 'Palestine' when every student of history knows that the Philistines died out thousands of years ago? > And probably also rejected because they didn't fancy > giving up most of their land. > It is really tragic that there could be such a thing as displaced humans, anywhere, but apparently we all came out of Africa. Should we get our land back from the Nigerians? What about the displaced Celts of England? I mean, we could take this to extremes and reorganize the entire human population! But it's a fact needing no reference that the British have done a lot of the displacing. So, you're saying that the agreement between Israel and the PLO, the creation of a 'Palestinian' state in the West Bank and in Gaza, was contingent on the 'right of return' to Israel by the Arabs who moved out of the new state of Israel? > The thing that galls me the most is that to become > a resident of Israel you just have to prove Jewish > ancestry yet the people who lived and farmed there > for thousands of years aren't allowed to return to > their homes! > Get a grip, Richard! You've got a royal 'Queen of England'. Now that's galling! > The vast majority of Israelis only have a religious > claim to the land, since they have been spreading > out for a couple of thousand years. It don't seem > right to me. > So, you're saying that the Jewish people, who lived on the land called Judah for thousands of years, were driven out by the Arabs, and that you don't think it's right for the Jewish people to return to their own land even after the Unitied Nations created the state of Israel for them to live in, and after every other nation on earth rejected them? > The fact is there is no peace process, never has been, > it was always just a "make the Palestinians accept the > shafting Israel has given them" process. > "The United Nations approved the Partition Plan, dividing the country into two states, one Arab and one Jewish. The Jewish community accepted the plan, but the Arab League rejected it. After World War I, the League of Nations approved the British Mandate of Palestine with the intent of creating a "national home for the Jewish people. In 1947, the United Nations approved the partition of the Mandate of Palestine into two states, one Jewish and one Arab. So, according to what I've read, the Arab League, Yassir Arafat, and Hamas rejected all the peace plans: The Oslo Accords, the Israel-Jordan Treaty of Peace, Wye River Memorandum, and the July 2000 Camp David Summit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel > The Hamas debacle showed the West up for what it is, > they insist on democracy and then refuse to recognise > the elected leaders. You couldn't make it up. > But isn't Hamas on the list of terrorist states, listed by almost every single nation on earth including the European Union, except for Iran, Syria, and Iraq under Saddam, and now Richard Hughes, supports the Hamas. I couldn't make that up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel
