I agree with you Richard about the teaching of this Yagya stuff in 
schools. I'm wondering though whether meditators in the West, at 
least, are more skeptical about Vedic astrology & Yagyas than in 
India (where it's just part of the culture) especially from word of 
mouth assessments of its nebulous advantages. So far there is little 
evidence that neither the astrology nor the yagyas have particularly 
advantaged MMY and his TMO. That surely is a telling, warning sign...

--- In [email protected], "hugheshugo" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "claudiouk" <claudiouk@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Happened to watch snippets of two programmes tonight - rather 
> > disturbing. First MMY tape, quite an early one, on M channel, 
> around 
> > 18:40 GMT. Some quotes will give the flavour: " funnily enough, 
> this is 
> > the story of love; no-one loves anybody; all currents of love 
> directed 
> > by self, for self, to self; feeding of self is what is dear, 
> expansion 
> > of self is only what is dear" etc. At end talked about self 
> expanding 
> > to Self, which seems OK but this is rather a limited view. 
> Throughout 
> > nature from cellular, organ, organism and social levels there is 
> > evidence of co-operation, altruism & selflessness (more Self than 
> self 
> > perhaps but nevertheless..). A psychpath, according to MMY's 
> criteria, 
> > would be more enlightened than a Ghandi? Surely not.
> > 
> > The other was a TV report on Voodism in Benin - how poor families 
> are 
> > having to sell their children to pay for expensive Voodoo rituals 
> to 
> > rectify bad "aspects" etc. Kind of exploitation that could easily 
> > result, in future, with the likes of Yagyas & Jyotish etc. 
> 
> What do you mean in future? The TMO makes a fortune peddling this 
> superstitious garbage to the True Believers. Yagyas cost a fortune!
> 
> And not content with mugging gullible seekers they teach jyotish at 
> Maharishi schools, how immoral is that! Ostensibly I don't care 
about 
> consenting adults giving money to the TMO and getting nothing in 
> return, if people want to kid themselves that yagas do anything at 
> all it's up to them but I've known plenty who have splashed out 
> thousands and thousands and obviously not got anything in return, I 
> wouldn't mind if it was even half as good as the placebo effect! 
> Sure, they kid themselves that it works "on some level" usually one 
> they "are not aware of".
> 
> I think bringing up children to believe this stuff should be 
illegal. 
> If you can't prove that something has any basis in fact what right 
do 
> you have to teach children it's an established fact, just because 
> it's "vedic"?
> 
> That's the trouble with religion it teaches you to be happy not 
> understanding the world. Keep it out of the classroom and the next 
> generation will grow up rejecting voodoo hokum.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> > So was reminded of my general unease about TMO's tendencies 
towards 
> > fundamentalism where common sense and compassion and fairness 
have 
> > become such secondary concerns. Doesn't augur well for future TM 
> Voodoo 
> > generations...
> >
>


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