--- In [email protected], "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" 
> <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > On Apr 12, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> > > 
> > > > It looks like you, too, are making the same "perfection =
> > > > intertia/not giving a shit" mistake that Jim keeps mentioning
> > > > and that keeps falling on deaf ears... er, blind eyes.
> > > 
> > > I don't believe in perfection.
> > > 
> > > Beliefs like "perfection" when referring to people or 'states 
> of  
> > > consciousness' are just beliefs.
> > 
> > Any idea can be just a belief, including your "wrong View" 
> doctrine.
> > For me, the "perfection of now" is a useful descriptor for abiding 
> in
> > equanimity with what is. It's the reality of my experience; belief
> > arises from the experience because that's what dual mind tends to 
> do
> > with ideas, but the belief, itself, is not important. 
> > 
> Yep- the experience if it is clear and sustained may eventually lead 
> to a belief, a hypothesis anyway, or not. It is the experience that 
> matters- who cares about a belief? 
> 
> Such a tortured and convoluted process to try to conform experience 
> to a belief, though that is the way the dual mind operates, which is 
> why it fights like hell to disavow the obvious. Even inventing 
> doctrines to try and force experience into its "safe" channel. What 
> a losing proposition! May as well try to call enlightenment "pseudo 
> advaita", or something equally crazy.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Waking Down doesn't
have rigid doctrines or authoritarian teachers/teachings. Sure,
there's descriptive language of awakening, but it's regarded as a
loosely drawn map or template, not a rigidly defined path, from which
one should not deviate. 

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