Judy, I will miss your input. I appreciate the counterpoint to the 
overwhelming Obama bias here.  My brother in law was just over for 
dinner, and he pointed out that Obama has exactly 2 more years, (not 
counting a year of campaigning), than he or I have in running the 
country.  Not that I like Hilliary, because I don't.  But I agree 
that we have to be long on hope that Obama can successfully lead the 
country.  He thinks Obama will be the next President.  I don't see 
it.



--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], satvadude108 <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine 
<salsunshine@> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 2:16 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > > 
> > > > His notion that he'd be able to waltz into the White
> > > > House and have everybody sit down around a big table
> > > > and make them feel so good about themselves that they'd
> > > > stop being greedy and warlike and would be happily
> > > > willing to restore the Constitution is a narcissistic
> > > > fantasy.
> > > >
> > > > Moreover, he's not the progressive he pretends to be.
> > > > If you look closely at his record and some of the
> > > > things he says, his open disdain for the kind of
> > > > battles progressives have been fighting for human rights
> > > > and equal justice for decades, he isn't even pretending.
> > > 
> > > Judy, in your intense dislike for Obama and your win-at-
> > > all-costs strategy fantasy that you'd like Hillary to
> > > pursue, you've become positively unhinged.
> > > 
> > > Time for a vacation.  See you in 5 days. :)
> 
> I think you miscounted, Sal. According to the Yahoo
> Message List (not the Advanced Search, which is
> currently completely kaput), this is my 50th post
> for the week.
> 
> >  Amazing isn't it?  I'm not so sure that it
> > is positively unhinged, but rather coldly
> > and ruthlessly calculated. The more 
> > it is engaged in the wider the gap emerges
> > between reality and manufactured spin.
> 
> But "satvadude" will not enlighten us on exactly
> what that gap he sees emerging is, or attempt
> to make any distinctions between "reality and
> manufactured spin."
> 
> > You see thru the web of disinformation,
> 
> But "satvadude" will decline to tell us where he
> sees any disinformation.
> 
> Nor, of course, will Sal deign to explain to us
> where she sees anything "unhinged" about what I've
> said.
> 
> You know, speaking of intellectual dishonesty...
> 
> Hey, Sal, how many millions of votes did you say
> have been cast in the primaries so far?
> 
> The two of you are a match made in...well, fill
> in the blank.
> 
> > thus the insults and vitriol. It never ends.
> > Perhaps it is best to ignore. I find some small 
> > comedic value. Someone the other day sent to
> > pretty funny site. It seems that some respected
> > research scientist got into it with her for an 
> > extended period and wished to memorialize it. 
> > I laughed till I cried.
> 
> As Lawson points out, Skolnick was not "some" (or
> any) "respected research scientist." Apparently
> your tears of laughter got in the way of reading
> anything about who he is. He was the news editor
> of JAMA. And at least among TMers, he is not
> respected in the slightest--to the contrary,
> primarily because he's deeply and maliciously
> dishonest.
> 
> Yes, he wished to "memorialize" his extraordinarily
> twisted version of his debates with me on 
> alt.meditation.transcendental in such a way that
> there could be no public comments on what he posted.
> 
> Anyone who was actually there at the time will tell
> you that what ended up on his Web site was not
> exactly what you would call an honest representation.
> The record of what *did* go on on alt.m.t is easily
> available on Google, however, for anyone who would
> like to check.
> 
> 
> 
> > http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/
>


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