--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Jun 9, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Robert Gimbel wrote:
> 
> > Well, how do we keep the ego, still lurking in the shadows, at 
bey,
> > always ready to ponce and take the power back to it's little self?
> > So, however we can stay in the self-referral frame, we stay out 
of the
> > ego. I guess that is the trick...or the surrender..to Self.
> >
> 
> Ego, the "I-am-maker", ahamkara keeps it's limitation going mainly 
> through "asmita" the sense of "I-am-ness" of "composite sentience". 
> Asmita is a klesha, an affliction, whose real name is "stupor". 
Until 
> stupor is destroyed in meditation, it will be impossible to see the 
> reflection/illusion of Buddhi reflecting Purusha. The reason it is 
> composite is because we're fooled into not getting that 
> purusha+prakriti ain't purusha.
> 
> Therefore discriminate and make the jump. Or not.
> 
> Meditation with objects or supports gives rise to samadhis still 
> containing I-am-ness (asmita-matra). Therefore it is helpful to 
> integrate some higher practice or at least transition by meditating 
on 
> subtler and subtler supports until purusha can be discriminated.
> 

One man's subtle is another man's not-subtle.

> My .02 USD.




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