Hi Kevin: On Jun 11, 2005, at 11:20 AM, shanti2218411 wrote:
> --Vaj,obviously you have no way of knowing what will happen to > meditators who have been witnessing for a prolonged period if they > stop meditating.In my own case which have I have discussed previously > in other posts the practice of TM and TMSP resulted in the awakening > of kundalini(I came to the the latter conclusion after talking to 4 or > 5 advanced chi kung and yoga instructors).This process has caused me > to have many different kinds of experiences both blissful and very > negative. Well ditto with me, although the vast majority of my experiences with shakti awakening were positive. The only real problems were with fear--once that's dealt with it's easy. > In addition to these experiences my mind has become > increasingly silent and unbounded.The difference between this spacious > inner silence and thinking feeling etc has become clearer and > stronger.These changes continue inspite of the fact that I have not > practiced TM on a regular basis for more than three years. Everyone's different--anything is possible. We are all unique. > A more > dramatic example would be the case of Susan Segal who had stopped > practcing TM for 5 yrs prior to expereincing a profound and permanent > change in her awareness.I believe that there are many more examples of > people who have experienced profound changes in conciousness as result > of TM(eg Peter,Tom T).To say that TM doesn't potentially result in > profound and permanent changes seems more like a bias you have about > TM. No, just an observation based on my own experience and what the tradition which advocates "CC" as the goal (samkhya and yoga darshana) insists is the case. > (frankly you do seem pretty invested in putting it down). Not really, it's just that we're in a forum where this topic comes up again and again. > I would > agree with your point that many people my make more progress towards > enlightenment through other spirtual paths. I also think that as LBS > has said previously that not all states of realization are the same > and the way you "gained" enlightenment will influence how you > expereince being enlighented.Kevin Interesting point. As I've stated many times here: View (darshana) determines Fruit (realization)--therefore know all you can about your "darshana"--esp. your own personal inner darshana--but also the tradition itself. Ultimately liberation, IMO, is an individual thing, about us and about our own condition--and it is rare that this will be the same for everyone and approachable by one "best" method or technique. -Vaj To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
