If you leave the
> door open a crack, maybe take a peek through from
> time to time, you might one day see something
> interesting. So I was just throwing it out there for
> the heck of it.


It definitely launched me into a level of conceptual thinking that I
don't often hang out in. A much appreciated mental goosing!


--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> >
> > snip  The concept was not created for that 
> > > > purpose.
> > > 
> > > Curtis, I seriously doubt it was "created for a
> > > purpose," i.e., by philosophers as a conceptual
> > > tool.
> > 
> > That sounds possible but its origin is presocratic so I
> > don't know if we can get to the bottom of it.
> 
> Even if some presocratic philosophers came up
> with it one night in a deep discussion and
> decided it was a useful conceptual tool, what
> I'm suggesting is that it's the sort of thing
> that might occur to anybody who tended toward
> introspection, whether they'd ever had any
> contact with philosophy or not.
> 
> <snip>
> > It is a radical conceptual departure from our everyday
> > experience.
> 
> I'd say it's a radical conceptual departure from
> how we've been trained to think about our
> everyday experience. There isn't anything in our
> experience *per se* that actually privileges one
> interpretation over the other.
> 
> <snip>
> > It doesn't have to
> > > change anything about how you interact with the
> > > world; it just changes your understanding of the
> > > meaning of "interact with the world."
> > 
> > This is a cool point.  I agree and acknowledge my limits
> > in speculating at this level of abstraction.  It is also
> > why I have little interest in theoretical physics, I know
> > my limitations.
> 
> Oh, pooh. Your limitations are where you draw them.
> 
> I have no idea how the notion might be useful. It
> just seems to me it's a mistake to invest everything
> in the Standard View when there's no way of proving
> it, or of disproving solipsism. If you leave the
> door open a crack, maybe take a peek through from
> time to time, you might one day see something
> interesting. So I was just throwing it out there for
> the heck of it.
>


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