--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > I was trying to point out that > > > if I understood you correctly concerning > > > your creation of objects perceived (feel free to correct however I > > > have mangled your POV) the implications lead to solipsism which is > > > used in philosophy more as a cautionary tale of a direction of > > > thinking than a proposal for a POV to be adapted. > > > > I am not sure that a S. POV needs to be adopted. That there are > > natural's. And not psychotic. > > And I would agree. Seen as a POV, and *only* a POV, > I see nothing wrong with "playing with" the notion > of solipsism. When one holds that it is the only, > or the "highest" POV, then I see an issue. > > > Regardless, this discussion has let me slip in and out of that view. > > One thing that is clear from that view is that Everything is > > projection. Which is not a dis word. One can project positive, > > neural and negative things in one's perception of the "dream > > people" out there -- which are really ME. And projections of my > > style of perception, epistimology, biases -- particularly > > confirmation bias,cognitive errors etc. > > > > And at the core of some of the discussion is the "when a tree > > falls in the forest and no one is around, does it make a sound" -- > > thing. Even "is the tree even there". I think yes, which is > > counter to what I understand Jim's view is. Correct? Is the tree > > not there? > > Exactly. That was the whole point of my little > "solar plexus" exercise. I think the tree is > really there as well. You may not see it from > your point of view, and thus may come to believe > that it doesn't exists. But if it falls, and falls > on YOU, you're still dead meat. >
But I won't really be dead to some because they weren't watching. But thats ok since they are only dream figures in my mind. (Of course. I may only be a dream figure in my dream figure's minds. Whew, like an infinite regress of dreams.)
