Vaj wrote:

>On Jun 12, 2005, at 9:49 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Maran means "kill" and it can be used to kill someone though that is
>>considered bad in the tantric tradition unless it is to save someone's
>>life such as a child from the attack of a tiger (or a mountain lion).
>>
>>Vashikaran is used to bring someone under your influence though it can
>>be used to help dispel relationship problems.
>>
>>Uchattan is used to distract the enemy.
>>
>>Stambhan is used to paralyze the enemy and shut up people who talk in
>>theaters during a movie. :)
>>
>>Videshan is used to create differences between people or groups of 
>>people.
>>
>>Shanti Karan is used for healing.
>>    
>>
>
>Technically these would not be considered siddhis per se but 
>applications of mantra siddhi (thus they are often referred to as 
>"action mantras"); consequently they are different than yogic siddhis 
>(as opposed to "attainment" siddhis).
>
>I realize this might seem a fine distinction, but I believe it is 
>appropriate to point out the differences.
>
>  
>
We (tantrics) regard them as siddhis.  The distinction is probably made 
by spectators and not the players. :)




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