--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], bob_brigante <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > "In a recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, only 45% of the > > American electorate said they can identify with Mr. Obama's values, > > compared to 54% who say they can identify with John McCain's values. > > http://tinyurl.com/3qynxj > > > > > Typical WSJ slanting. Obama's original remarks about clinging to religion and guns > were part of an answer to fundraisers and volunteers about how to talk to rural Penn. > voters about Obama's political issues. He pointed out that while you could bring up > his campaign's political talking points, many voters were bitter about trusting > campaign promises and instead "cling" to other "issues" like "religion and guns." > > > > Just as Reverent Wright's comments about "damning America" and Al Gore's comments > about "inventing the internet" were taken out of context, so were Senator Obama's. > > But the WSJ commentator knows this. > > > Lawson >
*********** I don't know if your remarks reflect mere laziness or a general inability to be coherent (which is pretty much the hallmark of this group, so I'm not trying to pick on you). Obama was not talking about campaign promises (and the speech was given in San Francisco, not to PA workers), but about voter frustration with economic conditions, which he thinks has embittered das volk: "At issue are comments Obama made privately at a fundraiser in San Francisco last Sunday. He explained his troubles winning over working class voters, saying they have become frustrated with economic conditions: 'It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or anti-pathy to people who aren't like them or anti- immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.' http://tinyurl.com/6fxpxz In any event, the poll results are independent of whatever spin you may think there is in the article -- the point being, it may look like Obama is in a race, but the race is over because a majority of Americans do not see Obama as relecting their values (whether that is justified and rational is beside the point -- I am not making any argument here that voters are rational -- if they were Bush would not have been reelected in 2004, just for starters).
