--- In [email protected], bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], bob_brigante <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > "In a recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, only 45% of the > > > American electorate said they can identify with Mr. Obama's > values, > > > compared to 54% who say they can identify with John McCain's > values. > > > http://tinyurl.com/3qynxj > > > > > > > > > Typical WSJ slanting. Obama's original remarks about clinging to > religion and guns > > were part of an answer to fundraisers and volunteers about how to > talk to rural Penn. > > voters about Obama's political issues. He pointed out that while > you could bring up > > his campaign's political talking points, many voters were bitter > about trusting > > campaign promises and instead "cling" to other "issues" > like "religion and guns." > > > > > > > > Just as Reverent Wright's comments about "damning America" and Al > Gore's comments > > about "inventing the internet" were taken out of context, so were > Senator Obama's. > > > > But the WSJ commentator knows this. > > > > > > Lawson > > > > > *********** > > I don't know if your remarks reflect mere laziness or a general > inability to be coherent (which is pretty much the hallmark of this > group, so I'm not trying to pick on you). Obama was not talking about > campaign promises (and the speech was given in San Francisco, not to > PA workers), but about voter frustration with economic conditions, > which he thinks has embittered das volk: >
No, he was at a fundraiser in CA and one of the people there was heading to PA to walk for Obama and asked what he could expect when he went door to door. > "At issue are comments Obama made privately at a fundraiser in San > Francisco last Sunday. He explained his troubles winning over working > class voters, saying they have become frustrated with economic > conditions: > > 'It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or > religion or anti-pathy to people who aren't like them or anti- > immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their > frustrations.' > > http://tinyurl.com/6fxpxz > You need to learn to check context. Here's the entire response, with Obama repeating the inaudible question at the start: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=343SXT_TgO4 > In any event, the poll results are independent of whatever spin you > may think there is in the article -- the point being, it may look > like Obama is in a race, but the race is over because a majority of > Americans do not see Obama as relecting their values (whether that is > justified and rational is beside the point -- I am not making any > argument here that voters are rational -- if they were Bush would not > have been reelected in 2004, just for starters). > I believe I wasn't spinning, unlike you and the WSJ. Lawson
