Look, Llun, as someone here suggested, I think the person
you're angry at is yourself, but you're taking it out on
someone convenient. 
 
-----I have considered suicide before. I wasn't very happy then. Once the thought is there it cannot be erased. I didn't do it obviously. Mainly because I feel depression is catching, and I wouldn't ever wish it upon anyone. So to me anyone who commits suicide is someone who has willed depression upon others. And so is worse than their own personal failure - like someone who knowingly copulates who has AIDS.
 
 
 It's not like I'm Rama's defender or
anything;
 
-----Actually, you are or you would just shut up about him.
 
 
the True Believers in that trip consider me an
unredeemable heretic. 
 
-----Or so your personal mythology makes you think...
 
 
But I'll reply to your points
because I think you're indulging in self-loathing and
feeling sorry for yourself, and aiming it in a direction
that doesn't do as much good as simply realizing that and
getting over it and getting back to walking the path...
 
 
-------The path of what?  Self liberation of the Bardo? That's my path. It happens regardless of my self loathing.


--- In [email protected], "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Because his sidhis were not aparent to all. They were only
> apparent to his 'chosen ones.'

This is not true.  People would pay $2 to get into an intro
talk at the L.A. Convention Center or Carnegie Hall and see
exactly the same stuff.
 
 
------I already told you I saw him, and got nothing. The $2 thing is bullshit. It was more like $20.


> Frankly, with that Jewish hookbill shnoz of his he never
> was all that hot to me.

Fred grew up Catholic.  You're kinda scraping the
bottom of the barrel in finding ways to dump on him.  :-)
 
 
----He had a big Jewish hump nose.  What's the argument. I'm just saying that for all the pussy he got he was no Brad Pitt. I'm dumping on him because his pretentious act is emphatically not the Buddhadharma. In fact it is no dharma at all, which is why he coommitted suicide. He had no path but his own ego and self agrandisement.
 
 

"Unhappily, young Dr. Lenz was as wayward as he was brilliant. Guru taught chastity, but Atmananda slept with many women; Chinmoy taught peace, but Atmananda loved violent movies and often took disciples to see them. Guru taught humility, but more and more, Atmananda hinted that he was something more than human, that he was an avatar, a fully enlightened teacher, a God on Earth. And, more and more, the followers believed him.

By the end of 1980, the relationship between Guru and Atmananda had deteriorated, according to former students. The younger teacher called for senior members of his following - including Comaford - to fast on nothing but fruit juice for thirteen days. He kept them up late for spiritual sessions. The intended effect was achieved: Dazed and confused from hunger and exhaustion, the disciples felt an even stronger loyalty to their teacher. They would need it in the face of what came next. " http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/2.01/lenz_pr.html

Just another piece of shit cult with no real Dharma.

 


> I thought he seemed cool wearing a leather jacket, but then
> I had been a punk rocker. I knew a con when I saw one.

Yeah, just like you recognized that Maharishi was. 
 
------Around 1999, yeah.
 
 
 
 You
just signed on at MIU/MUM to keep an eye on him and
make sure he didn't do anything really wrong.  :-)
 
 
------I went to MIU when I was seventeen in '83.' I didn't know jack shit back then.


> My sister owning a psychic institute called "Inner Perceptions"
> allowed me to meet a thousand different such people of every
> possible distinction.  Out of them all perhaps ten had any sort
> of sidhi, and by sidhi in their case I mean merely self knowledge.

Whereas you've got your act together?  :-)
 
-------More together than before. Yes.


> Only Sholom Carlbach seemed beyond ego...

And there's none in your rant?  :-)
 
-------I'm not holding myself out as a teacher, or as anything. In fact whenever people get high on something I say it makes me feel even more isolated. Just like when I cook. Invariably people always compliment the one item that was my least favorite of my dishes. People have no sense. It's for them that I write.

> ...but that was probably just an act. There was a psychic named
> Reverend Marilyn, and Carolyn Lacy. There was Bearheart, Isreal
> Regardie, and a Hindu palmreader. The rest "were all" shysters.

He says humbly, having developed a strong reputation here
for always seeing correctly and making wise life decisions.  :-)
 
------Ad hominim. I see why you like amt.

> Lenz as well.  In this world, in this life I have seen and met
> almost everyone and everything that ever came to the US.

Cool.  Can we worship YOU?  :-)
 
------You can worship my cock if you like. But your worship alone won't get it up.

> Lenz was a pathetic shyster. His life led to his death...

Well, duh.  So does yours, and mine, and everyone's.  :-)
 
 
Well Duh, I mean his deception of others showed up when he killed himself. His whole life was a deception.


> ...and his bad karma lives on still.

On the other hand, like Maharishi, he taught tens of thousands
of people to meditate and follow a spiritual path.  The vast
majority of them are still doing both.  What have you done
lately besides bitch?  Talk to your current teachers, dude.
If they're as neat as you say they are, they'll put you to
work helping other people to get your mind off of yourself.
 
------My current lama is in Dharamsala where I cannot follow being broke and having to work here. As for having my mind off myself.  Hahhaha. There is no self per se. All is mind.

Unc
 
What's with the fucking Uncle Tantra shit. It makes you sound like Uncle Ernie.
 
;)





 


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