--Yes...in this tradition, there's no quibbling about the Names being 
actual "gods"; even though a few can also be interpreted as 
impersonal energies or levels of Shakti. (but of course, people in 
Surat Shabd Yoga: ( Sant Mat, Radhaswami, Ruhani Satsang, etc.) 
wouldn't dare use the term "Shakti" lest somebody be tainted by 
traditional Hindu terms).  Also, you'd never find any claims of 5-7 
years to reach the goal; although 3 lifetimes is sometimes mentioned.



- In [email protected], "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "yifuxero" <yifuxero@> wrote:
> >
> > --- Right: I've been initiated into Surat Shabda Yoga: by 
> > representatives of Darshan Singh, Charan Singh, and Thakur Singh. 
The 
> > 5 Names are 1. Jot Narinjin, 2. Omkar 3. Rarankar 4. Sohang 5. 
Sat 
> > Nam. The seeker repeats the Names over and over again slowly.
> > I couldn't detect any power whatsoever in those mantras; so I 
> > continued with TM (which does have Shakti-power in it).
> >
> 
> Fascinating, thanks for the info, though my friend had mentioned a 
few
> of those words I wasn't sure what they all were!  That group has 
some
> funny beliefs too, here's only one, but a whooper:
> 
> Merely by initiation alone, a sadhaka (initiate) is relieved (by the
> Masters magic erasure) of *ALL* of his past (Sanchita) karma, only 
his
> present (Prarabdha)  karma has to be worked out, and he is 
gauranteed
> moksha in 4 lifetimes!  I think all of this nonsense is a result of
> the Sikh Religion's disenchantment with Hinduism.
> 
> Also, there can only be ONE Sat-Guru on the planet at one time, and
> OH, it just happens to be theirs.......Ha,ha.
>


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