--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > You know, Rick, you really should include on the home > > page that this "spiritual" forum welcomes liars and > > that honesty is not held as a value. > > I agree, Rick. Please include in the rap that > such liars are welcome to comment on films > they have never seen,
See below about Barry's comments on Inland Empire. and to call the creator > of a film they have never seen a "bigot." That > certainly shows a devotion to honesty. It's not necessary to see "Apocalypto" to know that Gibson is a Christian bigot. It's pretty widely acknowledged and has been since long before he made that film. > > Damn right I didn't "review" the movie, as the post > > in question clearly shows. For Barry to believe he can > > actually reproduce the post *and still claim that I > > "reviewed" it* is a truly massive exercise in solipsism. > > In ALL of the subsequent discussion of this gaffe, > Judy has studiously avoided the real issue, which > is that she commented on a film she has never seen, > going so far as to call the filmmaker a "Christian > bigot." No, Barry's lying again. There was no "gaffe," and I certainly didn't avoid the "issue" that I had commented on a film I hadn't seen or called Gibson a Christian bigot (which I stand by). That's what the subsequent discussion was *about*, of course, and I addressed both "issues" in detail, as Barry knows. I have no problem with someone saying I *commented* on the film. They were very brief comments and were based on a Mayan expert's analysis of the film's historical accuracy, which analysis there is no reason to doubt (among other reasons because he was hardly the only person to mention them, as I documented in the original discussion). What I did was very different, as Barry and Vaj are well aware, from "reviewing" the film. Words *do* have meanings. You'd think Barry, who fondly thinks of himself as a writer, would know that. Barry might also want to remember that he branded Lynch's "Inland Empire" a "stupid movie" without ever having seen it, in a post that he subsequently *deleted*, cowardly hypocrite that he is--but unfortunately for him, not before I'd seen it. The "gaffes" in the discussion of "Apocalypto" were, in fact, all Barry's, and were too numerous to mention. If anybody's interested, the main threads were titled "Mel Gibson, Christian Bigot" and "Finally saw 'Apocalypto.'" Barry brought it up in other threads, despite having made an utter fool of himself in the main ones, as he's doing here; just do a search for "Apocalypto" to find the posts. <snip> > Judy, do you *still* believe that Mel Gibson is > a "Christian bigot" (your term) for making the > film "Apocalypto?" Not for making the film, but for what he put in the film. Please cite examples from the > film you've never seen to illustrate. Just refer to the original post. (The orig- > inal author of the piece you quoted and believed > without seeing the movie got several of his > examples *wrong*, so I wouldn't use them if I > were you.) No, Barry, it was you who got things wrong, including your utterly ludicrous notion that it was fundamentally intended as a "love story," something Gibson would find hilarious. You made a bunch of other howling bloopers as well.
