--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Now, now. DOn't let the facts get in the way of the hate- fest... > > > > > > I don't think that there is hate here. People are just trying to > > > understand what's going on. No need to charge up the retoric. > > > Criticism sure, dislike sure, hate-fest, I doubt it. > > > > I see it a bit differently. Every time a negative story about MMY is > > recounted, there's a crowd of people here who automatically accept > > it as true. These same people automatically doubt or reject outright > > any positive story. > > One of the differences, Lawson, is that many if not > most of the people here are TM *teachers*, as opposed > to the forum you're more used to. They've been around > the block a few times, heard all the stories, and have > found out for themselves how many of the "postive" ones > are a steaming pile of bull crap. And, more important, > they've been on the "front lines" for years or decades, > dealing with these same questions from others, telling > them the same bull crap, as they were taught to. >
Well, so Doug Henning's story about his first meeting with MMY was crap? Joyce Weaver's first-hand account of her TTC where the guy squished the bug was really something where she was taught to recount the story as though it was her TTC (forgot the lady's name originally but now I remember)? Annoop Chandola's account of his meeting with the Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath was made up? > Look at the home page for this group, at the "mission > statement" posted there. This is a place for people who > think for themselves, and are proud of that. When some- > one comes here trying to impress by telling the same old > warmed-over tall tales we've heard for years, using > *exactly* the same words they were told in when we first > heard them, using *exactly* the same words *we* used when > *we* told them, or were *taught* to tell them, it doesn't > quite have the effect you are hoping for. But... Are you saying that each and everyone of the people I dealt with was making things up or repeating a verbatum script? > > Is there dissatisfaction here with Maharishi personally > and the TM organization? Well, duh? How could one be > a thinking individual looking at either dispassionately > and not feel some dissatisfaction? The difference between > this forum and others you are more used to is that no one > here is waiting in the wings to stomp such dissatisfaction > out and label those who feel it as traitors or "anti-TMers" > or worse. And when someone tries, as you seem to be doing > these days, the response is usually to laugh at them for > trying rather than lash out in return. We've all been > there, done that so many times that most people just have > developed a tolerance for those who try to "defend" Maha- > rishi by lashing out at his critics and/or repeating the > same tired old stories, under the theory that if you > repeat them often enough, people will actually believe > they're true. That may work for America when the Bushies > do it, but I don't think you're gonna get very far doing > it here. > > Just some friendly advice, guy. You know that I like you, > but you're coming across as a bit of a fundamentalist, in > a crowd that got over that shit years ago. Actually, the whole group here comes across as a bunch fundamentalists turned atheists. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
