On Jun 14, 2005, at 11:25 AM, t3rinity wrote:

>
>> "The Vedas prohibit the sale of God in any form. It says: O mighty 
>> Lord
>> of countless wealth, I will not sell thee for any price (Rigved
>> 8.01.05). The role of a guru is that of a guide and a giver, and not 
>> of
>> a taker.
>
> Sure, but your argumentation stands on weak feet, because
>
> 1) God isn't sold nor cannot be sold. (btw. all the craftsmen doing
> Temple idols don#t do it for free. It's an honorable profession)
> 2) Of course something is given. If you never got it, maybe you never
> tried it. If I go to India, it also costs me 1000 to 2000 Euros. And
> if I visit any holy man or woman, s/he expects most likely a dakshina
> from me.
> 3) The Upanishads are full of quotes showing that material items had
> to be given to the respective teachers, like firewood, which surely at
> that time wasn't just symbolic, and cows.

The reference wasn't in regards to cows or firewood, but the selling of 
mantras and false gurus--thus the 'taking' part (and M.'s import 
companies, resorts, etc.).



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