--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Ever notice that quite a few people have made their most signifcant > > progress after leaving Maharishi - Amber Terrel, Susan Segal, all > the > > beakaway folks, SSRS etc... Maybe it's just growing up. Son becomes > a > > father, Student becomes a teacher. It happens. > > And sadly, sometimes it happens only *by* leaving > the teacher. One of the trends I've noticed in the > spiritual smorgasbord, especially among the teachers > who are more charismatic and popular, is that while > the whole professed goal of the trip is for students > to realize enlightenment, no student is ever allowed > to realize enlightenment. > > That is, when someone starts having "good experiences" > and talks about them openly, the student is often put > down by the teacher and/or shunned. The student is > described as delusional. Some are actually kicked out > of organizations for starting to experience what the > people in the organization claim that everyone wants > to experience. Go figure. >
Of course, MMY said from the getgo that experiences aren't important, at least in general, and taht sharing experiences makes everyone else either envious, confused or feeling in competition. That always made sense to me, but I guess if you disagree with his entire way of looking at things, you disagree with these points as well... > I'm *not* talking just about the TMO here, although > we've certainly seen that phenomenon there. I'm say- > ing that one can see the same phenomenon in *many* > different spiritual trips. I find it equally sad in > all of them. It's like it becomes more important for > the teacher to maintain the teacher-student disparity > than anything else. And when these situations arise, > you learn very quickly which teachers have *never* > believed that their students would reach their level, > and are quite threatened when one of them does. It's > a real puzzler... > Which level has MMY reached, and how has he discouraged others from reaching it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
