--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Akasha, great to see you back. Hope you are well. > > On Jun 15, 2005, at 9:29 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > > > Ut oh Peter, now you have done it! You called CC "baby awakening". Tom > > is going to go totally ballistic! I quoted you sometime back as CC > > being "baby steps" and Tom lambsted me up and down for 3-4 posts as to > > why there was nothing "baby" about it. But with Sat Yuga and all, > > maybe things are mellower. You yourself are even making what you > > previous called "huge epistimological mistakes!" and laughing it away. > > It's funny when you see these parrotings of TMO doctrine. What's so > funny is that most aren't even aware that to a Samkhya practitioner > turiyatita (CC) *IS* the big E! Really all that can be said is that > this is the POV of Mahesh Yogi (this CC opinion)--because it certainly > does not represent any lineal transmission. Most hilarious is the whole > idea that there is a transition from CC to GC to UC. GC or > Bhagavata-chetana is the style of enlightenment described by the > Bhagavatins. The Bhagavatins were Vaishnavite Bhaktis--devotional > practitioners from the cult of Vishnu! This is why when you study and > practice from the perspective of the Shankaracharya trad. you will NOT > find "GC" as part of any continuum of enlightenment. What these > represent are different POV's--different darshanas. Advaita does show a > path beyond turiyatita to videha-mukti (UC) but it ain't anything like > M. claims. > > The idea of 7 states of consciousness is a fabrication of M.'s > opinions. "Seven" may have been a more marketable concept than "six", > but the idea that these 7 states represent a continuum is a novelty of > Mahesh. > > > On a more serious note, do you singularly define CC as "Cessation of > > identification of consciousness with mind. End of 'I' and 'me'"? Do > > you feel "No I" is both nexcessary and sufficient to label the > > experience "CC"? Without relying on dogmatic kneejerks, it does seems > > there are additional "attributes" along with or beyond the experience > > of "No I". > > Actually turiyatita or CC is said to occur with the complete > DISSOLUTION of mind. Merely ceasing to identify with the mind would > give a glimpse of "CC" perhaps, not the end result. The methods to > perform this dissolution are not taught in the TMO so therefore it is > crucial, if we are to maintain the illusion that the TM/TMSP actually > can lead to enlightenment, that other false or novel ideas be > presented. > > -Vaj
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