--The BODY is the source of fear, not the ego. This fact (more importantly and generally), explains why Enlightened Gurus can still have hang-ups especially in the sex and money departments. The source of desires in these areas arise from the BODY, not the ego. Remember: such desires originating from the physical body (and even subtle bodies), have an origin in millions of years of evolution and carry a momemtum full of impulses relating to primal instincts; but translated into a host of new desires blossoming in aspects of the social arena not present, (say) 50,000 years ago. Going back in time even further, look at the less highly evolved primates such as chimps. Observation of their groups show highly complex social skills involving power struggles, alliances, clashes of personality, sex games, etc; and in the human context of modern life, these primal desires and ways of interacting are translated into even more highly complex and refined patterns of behavior.
- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -In regard to the last post: there is no fear, because the ego is > the origin of fear, due to it's quality of seperating,...everything.. > whereas the Self, there is unity, no need to fear...anything, as to > fear requires you to feel threatened or seperated from something, or > disconnected, etc, all of the stuff the ego call up to verify > itself... > > -- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > We automatically call our "self" the most permanent set of > things > > > present in our mental landscape. For most, these include > > personality, > > > beliefs, habits, emotions, etc. When somone has 24/7 witnessing, > the > > > most permanent aspect of their existance is that 24/7 > witnessing, so > > > by "definition," that is their self. > > > > *** > > By what "definition"? This presumes self to begin with. In other > > words, someone experiencing a sense of self has uttered these > words. > > Contrast this with comments from Suzanne Segal such as: The > mothering > > function is happening. It is happening better than if there were a > > mother. But there is no mother. She was referring to herself in > > relation to her child. From an outsider's perspective, "she" was > > obviously present, but she experienced no sense of a self. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
