--- In [email protected], "guyfawkes91" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I always laugh when I hear the words Maharishi and Management or 
> Vedic Management together. Maharishi University of Management is 
> something of an oxymoron, like "The Dick Cheney Institute of 
> Business Ethics"
> 
> Who would want to learn management techniques from an organisation
> that has gone from being top dog in spiritual development to being 
> a footnote in the wilder shores of nonsense? Only if someone wanted 
> to learn what not to do.

But if you think about it, that's kinda valuable.

That's one of the things that has left me still
curious about different spiritual trips after 40+ 
years of being around them -- watching them and 
seeing the things they do right and, possibly 
more valuable, the things they do wrong. 

One could create a viable (and valuable) spiritual
movement just by watching what the TMO has done 
over the years, taking notes, and then avoiding 
*most* of the things they did. Same with quite a 
few of the other big spiritual movements. The educa-
tional value of the organization is not limited to 
the things they think they teach, but includes
the things that they *really* teach, personified
in what they *do*.

Having seen *what happens*, for example, when you
allow a hierarchical structure to proliferate in
your spiritual movement (with categories of students
who are considered "lower" and "higher" and are
rewarded for their "highness" with increased access
to the teacher or with special privileges, I would
turn and walk out the door immediately if I ran
into a spiritual trip in which that kind of hier-
archy was present. 

Having seen *what happens* when you show zero ethics
when dealing with "them" (those who are not part of
the group) and equally low ethics when dealing with 
"us" (those who are part of the group), I would have 
nothing to do with any group that doesn't walk its 
ethical talk.

In short, the "negative teachings" wind up becoming
more valuable in the long run, because they help you
develop a set of "filters" with which to evaluate
any new teacher or movement you stumble across. If
you see a familiar set of behaviors in the new group
or teacher, and you've seen *what happens* karmically
as a result of that set of behaviors, you know not 
to fall for it again.

In a way, it's like a film student taking the time
to watch a few really *bad* movies. Watching only the
classics will teach you things to do, but watching
the bad ones will teach things NOT to do.



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