--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 20, 2005, at 12:31 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > > > > >> I don't really > >> think alot about karma because it is quite complex. > > > > Same with most people it appears. Which is natural, I just find it > > amusing when those who have little knowledge or appreciation of it > > imply that it is silly -- al la Ricks post -- and my original take on > > your post. > > > > While it may be hogwash, coming to that conclusion should at least > > include some knowledge of its theory and application. > > My original intro to all this karma stuff was from my training in > Jyotish.
Mine too. I worked with G. Joytish software for years, read a lot of books, visited various jyotishis. While I am skeptical of many jyotishis abilities (that is their skills are lacking, not necessary true jyotish) I have found enough insight from my own own chart and a few others whom I know their bio well, and the broader theory presened by jyotish, to hold it as quite plausible. Reading Svobodas books about his mentor Aghori Vimalananda was fascinating and eye opening in terms of the scope and minuteness in which karma affects our lives -- per many stories and examples of Vimalananda. While these are perhaps odd fantasies of an old man, I give him some substantial credence give that at least three of his students, Svoboda, Dr. Lad (ayur-ved) and Hart deFouw are quite competent practicioners, IMO, and obain real-world practical results, based on Vimalananda's training. And Parashara -- the father of jyotish / karma is part of the holy tradition. If one holds to some things in the tradition are valid, its hard to totally discount other major facets such as jyotish. > Essentially your Jyotish chart is your karmic manifestation. > Points of manifestation are "confluences" in your chart. If you > visit someone like Yogi Karve, that's what he's grokking, the karmic > potentials in your subtle bodies. Yes, I have visited him. A very sweet and humble man. And he intuited my birthtime, then adusted it one minute. > Another way of grokking your own > karma is through visionary experiences...they cannot occur without a > *cause*. This is one of the reasons many yogis will seclude themselves > in caves or total darkness. > > Ever read Dr. John Lilly's autobiog? He was doing the same thing with a float tank. A bit. Interesting guy. Didn't pursue reading him too much after he discussed his dolphin sex stuff. Several TMO jyotishis that I talked with at length is that were quite explicit that "enlightenment" is in ones chart. Going as far to say that if its there in your chart, there is nothing you can do to stop its unfoldment in this life, even if you stop all sadhana. And implied that if its not there, it is not achievable in this life. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
