In what tradition do you belong?
Ingegerd

--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Exactly and that is why you are using long mantras.  ;-)
> 
> The guru mantra is a mantra that has been passed down in a 
tradition.  
> It is the key mantra (also referred to as a "beej mantra" though in 
a 
> different sense than beej aksharas) that is used to enliven other 
> mantras.  They are very powerful and given only to disciples.  The 
> initiation of becoming a disciple (shishya) is the passage of the 
guru 
> mantra.  And in my tradition we will make anyone a disciple who is 
> sincere and genuine in their desire.
> 
> Many published mantras are "tribal mantras" and included in books 
> because they are public and the author, if a disciple, can't reveal 
the 
> mantras his guru gave him.
> 
> Llundrub wrote:
> 
> >I have never had a guru.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: Bhairitu 
> >To: [email protected] 
> >Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:42 AM
> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
> >
> >
> >Llundrub wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
> >>
> >>
> >>on 6/20/05 10:05 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, just OM! 
> >>
> >>
> >>So I wonder whether meditating on OM by itself might make one a 
recluse while meditating with a longer mantra that contains OM might 
not, as my friend suggested in the comment I posted here yesterday. 
> >>
> >>I have a basic problem with these generalizations based on 
heresay.  
> >>
> >>For the basic reason that when I used to do TM at MIU I wanted to 
be a recluse and escape from all the cares of the world, and that was 
using my non-OM mantra. So I can only imagine if what Maharishi says 
about OM is true that I would have probably wanted to run screaming 
from samsara. Moreover, my desires had no support at MIU and I was 
miserable.   
> >>
> >>So I ask, what is the real difference?  
> >>
> >>My experience, which I consider to be the only important thing in 
the world, confirms for me that the mantras which I have used since 
TM, most of which contain OM as a part are extremely effective in 
very vaulable ways, and they have only bettered my life.  
> >>
> >>When I used to do Mahalakshmi Sadhana I used two main mantras 
which together are:
> >>Om shrim klim mahalakshmiyei namaha Om shrim hrim shrim kamala 
kamalalayei praseed praseed shrim hrim shrim om mahalakshmiyei 
namaha.  Many Oms, I had much benefit from doing this 250,000 times. 
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> ><snip>
> >If you have a "guru mantra" then the amount of repetitions 
required to 
> >attain mantra siddhi are significantly reduced.  It's also 
interesting 
> >to note that the "secret" mantras are often much shorter. :)
> >
> >  
> >




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