Vaj wrote: > > On Oct 20, 2008, at 4:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > >> Alex Stanley wrote: >>> >>> My favorite commentary on the nature of darshan was posted by Barry a >>> few years ago on FFL: >>> >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/55423 >>> >>> Waking Down uses the term "transmission" to describe how that >>> awakening is propagated, and WD's gazing meditation is definitely a >>> darshan phenomenon. But, I love Barry's POV that darshan is a process >>> of the seeker recognizing what is already there and not the teacher >>> sending out magical mystical jeebus rays. I think having that >>> perspective was a big help for me, because when I was in the dark >>> night of the soul, and the relative world turned to ashes, not even my >>> WD teacher's gaze could touch me. With the perspective that this was >>> *my* process, it was easier for me to see the path turn to ashes along >>> with everything else. >> I've been taught shaktipat by my tantric guru. The technique is simple >> and it is a transmission of your shakti to someone else. Since shakti
>> is an energy that exists to various degrees in any living body it is >> transmittable. However to perform the technique properly and without >> depleting your own shakti the guru waits until you have enough stored >> shakti to allow the disciple to use the process. At that the guru may >> limit how many people you can give shaktipat to in one day again to keep >> from depletion. The energy gets the pran moving and can open up blocked >> channels for people so it can also be used as a healing technique as >> well as jump starting a meditation technique. >> >> Most people in this group probably since they've been meditating a long >> time could perform shaktipat but the TMO doesn't teach it. Most gurus >> who do teach it would require you learn their meditation first and >> practice it a while before being allowed to give shaktipat. > > It seems to me you two are speaking of different darshanas, different > ways-of-seeing. > > In the outer and inner tantras there is a natural duality which is > used to approach the nondual. > > But at the level of the nondual, it's approached very differently, as > there's nothing to fabricate. The sun is always shining, it doesn't > need to be "created". Shine or rain, day or night, it remains > unchanged. The nondual way-of-seeing is kinda like that: Ah. It's just > the way it is and always was. I haven't met Mother Meera so I can't say what kind of shatipat she is doing but Ammachi's was pretty much the same kind as what I was taught. And what I've read of Meera's it may also be the same. Beware of philosophical explanations that make what is actually simple and fairly attainable out of reach for the masses. Zapping zaps, that's all there is to it! :-D
