On Jun 23, 2005, at 3:54 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

> To me it could imply that because of the basic dogma that
> enlightenment, once realized, is permanent and "self-
> sustaining" in that the enlightened being can "do no
> wrong," no need for such teachings is perceived.

If you dye the cloth and lay it in the sun, let it fade, die it again, 
lay it in the sun, die it again, etc. it will make the color more 
lasting.

But if you stop dying the cloth and leave it lie in the sun, the colors 
will fade.

Mental meditation methods will not ultimately dissolve the kleshas or 
the samskaras at the root. That's why the Shankaracharya trad. teaches 
these styles of meditation will only give temporary results.

> Or it could imply that, even though Maharishi is clearly
> "on his way out," incarnation-wise he perceives no immed-
> iate need for such teachings, or has nothing along these
> lines *to* teach.

It possible his dharma was just to open the largest group possible to a 
simple meditation method--kind of an intro to meditation.

>
> What do people think?  I'm certainly interested to hear
> if such teachings *are* available, or even theoretically
> available in the materials left to the "posterity" of
> the TM movement.

IME they are not available, but neither are many of the other important 
methods or techniques which are important to realization and the 
removal of obstacles in the path.



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