--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> > > Right. I am of course not referring to the TM itself, but to the
> > > explanation that is given especially at the second day 
checking, 
> > that
> > > is stress release, and thought being an expression of it. The 
idea
> > > that stresses, for example emotional are restored in the body 
and 
> > upon
> > > release are giving rise to thought activity. The idea that the 
> > thought
> > > will be not necessarily exact, but could respond by 
association. 
> > That
> > > there is a mixture, i.e. a cluster of stress released. That 
there 
> > is a
> > > cycle.
> > 
> > But this is exactly what the samskaras are in the Yogic 
tradition. 
> > Ever occur to you that maybe Hubbard was familiar with THAT?
> 
> Hubbard modelled his Dianetics after Psychtherapy. He surely was 
aware
> of Samskaras, but in Indian thought samkaras are usually not being 
rid
> of by just making them conscious. This is typically Freud. You 
become
> conscious of something hiding in the unconscious and get rid of it
> thereby. You don't find this in the indian Samskar theory. 
Similarely
> in TM the stresses are being released when the thought arises. I am
> not aware that in indian theory the arising of thought is seen as
> getting rid of Samkaras. I am not saying that it cannot work. I am
> just saying that I am not aware of such a source. I don't think that
> it's bad  to get inspired and influenced by other contemporary
> movements. But personaly I wouldn't be too rigit about this
> thought=stressrelease theory. It's helpful, but its also a trap. You
> get rid of Samskaras in TM. But it's not one to one with the 
thoughts
> arising IMO.

MMY never said it was. In fact, in the SCI tapes, he said exactly the 
opposite: that you cannot assume a 1 to 1 relationship.


 you have to distinguish of a theory being helpful to keep
> a certain process going - as an explanation, to not resist thoughts 
or
> force oneself, and it being *literally* true. An elephant has two
> kinds of teeth, two to show and two to chew.
>  
> >  Its not the same, but you feel that he modelled it after the
> > > auditing model of Dianetics.





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