--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/25/05 12:38 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > They both do much more charitable work than the TMO ever did (any > >> charitable work would be more). They're each going about it in > > their own > >> way. But regardless of that, having a big organization has no > > correlation > >> with whether or not one is enlightened. Behaving ethically and > >> compassionately may be more correlated, but who knows? > > > > That wasn't what I asked. You say that MMY's behavior is difficult to > > understand compared to others you mentioned, but the others you > > mentioned are not in the same space, and can't be judged on their > > behavior when presented with the same issues, because they don't > > interact with the world on that level. > > > > SSRS isn't ever going to be interviewed on national TV in the USA > > based on his reputation from 30 years previously, now is he? > > He is still younger than MMY was when he became famous. No telling what > he'll do. Amma is becoming more and more famous. 1/4 million people (or some > such number) from all over the world attended her 50th birthday celebration > a couple of years ago. Billy Graham is still getting interviewed on Larry > King. Is that any indication of his degree of enlightenment? No one outside > India ever heard of Guru Dev. Was that any indication of his? What does > Maharishi's behavior have to do with his fame (largely attributable to the > Beatles), and with his level of consciousness? So he made a big splash in > the late 60's through mid 70's and introduced us and many others to > meditation. We're all grateful for that. The world was ripe for such a thing > and if it hadn't been him it would have been another, but obviously it was > his role. I guess the point we're debating is "the others you > > mentioned are not in the same space, and can't be judged on their > > behavior when presented with the same issues, because they don't > > interact with the world on that level." > > But I don't understand the point you're trying to make. Are you saying that > has fame excuses him from any mistakes he may have made?
I'm saying that what he has accomplished, given the time and circumstances, is unique. The same can be said of me, and everyone else, of course, within our own spheres of activity and influence, but within the relative categories of fame, organiational accomplishment, etc., he stands alone amongst modern spiritual teachers. No-one else that I'm aware of has had to deal with getting meditation teachers out of potential prison sentences in Franco's courts, for instance. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
