One thing's very obvious from hearing Orme-Johnson's comments: someone affiliated with the TMO is listening to FFL and probably the TMFree blog...it just shows the power a forum of free speech like FFL, etc. can have. They're forced to respond (with rather lame answers) because the banter here is also hitting the search engines along with their marketing spiel. And so the disinformation campaign that is OJ's website.

On separate note, Raunchy asked why anyone would want to continue to expose the dangers of the TM org, so repeatedly. The answer is the danger still exists that people can be deceived, harmed or financially drained by this org which is overly secretive. This same org thrusts itself constantly into the public spotlight worldwide, but gives no transparency for their potentially dangerous org and it's former leader was involved in numerous scandals from money laundering, to political manipulation to sexual improprieties--the list goes on and on--all the while working hard to conceal his tracks and his past. The technique they're selling and the org that administers it has been the cause of suicide, murder, insanity and a long list of ills that could potentially be prevented.

If the victims of other cult abuse organizations can say "never again" in the hope that more people aren't harmed by such institutions of abuse, so can we.

On Dec 10, 2008, at 12:11 AM, yifuxero wrote:

---I don't see much truth in this section. His clever choice of words
generates an imprecise reply (typical of TMO responses as a whole,
apart from outright doctoring of stats):
"
Is anyone getting enlightened? Many people are experiencing the
classical milestones of enlightenment, which arise from regular
practice of the Transcendental Meditation program. These include
witnessing of sleep and activity, equanimity during challenging
experiences, and increase creativity.

Recent published research on these individuals has scientifically
verified the reality of unique physiological characteristics and
benefits of enlightenment. Moreover, the entire body of research on
the Transcendental Meditation program demonstrates holistic
development of the qualities of enlightenment"

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