Vaj wrote:

>On Jun 25, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
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>>I also find that some
>>gentle attentiveness vs. allowing the mind to just mess around makes a 
>>big
>>difference in terms of clarity and frequency of transcending.
>>
>>At Estes Park, M quoted the Vedas as saying, "Be easy to us with gentle
>>effort."
>>
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>
>And indeed this very simple attentiveness--or mindfulness--is one of 
>the key antidotes to laxity and torpor. But of course this is not 
>taught as part of TM, it's sad Rick that this is buried in some old 
>tape and not integrated into practice. I don't know about you, but I've 
>met a good number of meditators who ended up being drained by such 
>torpor. Laxity is believed to be a intentional mental process where the 
>meditative object (in this case Self or mantra) is not perceived with 
>vividness. Once meditation reaches the "effortless" stage (where one 
>simply sits and can transcend for at least an hour at a time with no 
>breaks) this tends to disappear as delusion is dissolved. Without 
>mindfulness and some forcefulness its hard if not impossible to get to 
>the deeper levels of meditation. I always liked the analogy of 
>Shakyamuni of having the lute strings 'not to tight or not to loose'; 
>that's just how mindfulness is.
>
>It's said that if torpor is not conquered, ones intelligence will 
>decrease. Now there'd be an interesting scientific study! :-)
>
>
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Doing japa with a mala or counting with the fingers often helps 
mindfulness and increases the intensity of the meditation.



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