--- In [email protected], Peter <drpetersutp...@...> wrote:
>
> --- On Sat, 12/27/08, TurquoiseB <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Rabidly hating the TMO and MMY is just as invested/
> > > attached/identified as rabidly loving it. 
> > 
> > While I agree 100% with your last sentence,
> > I should point out that claiming that's what
> > critics of a group are "really" doing when
> > they criticize the group is a classic cult
> > technique in itself.
> > 
> > It's a variant of the "They're just jealous
> > that they're not still with us" manipulation
> > technique in that the target audience for the
> > claim is current members of the group, not 
> > those outside the group.
> 
> They actually could have a point, but its being made in an 
> inauthentic argument. 

And often without basis. Who here could
legitimately be characterized as "rabidly
hating" the TMO and Maharishi? I don't 
know of anyone here who could. But I know
of quite a few who have been accused of it.

> If someone didn't have an attachment to a group identity, 
> why would they endlessly criticize that group? 

Speaking of "inauthentic arguments," Pete,
this is one. I'm not gay, but I find myself
being an active voice in criticizing the
haters who sponsored Proposition 8 and now
want to nullify same-sex marriages in CA.
I will criticize these assholes no end, but
I was never a part of the "group" they're
trying to take rights away from. Similarly,
there are some who criticize poor behavior
in spiritual groups because it's there and
shouldn't be, not because they were ever 
part of the group.

> They find a degree of value in the group identity, but 
> they also find problems. They want the group identity, 
> but without the problems. 

In all honesty, the only person I can think
of on this forum who falls into this category
is Nabby. We all suspect that he wouldn't be 
allowed within a mile of a real TM facility,
but he'd still like to be perceived as an
on-the-program TMer.



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