--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Jun 26, 2005, at 9:59 AM, authfriend wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Wow, I never heard that the absence of thoughts
> > > > > > in TM indicates an absence of "progress."  Is
> > > > > > that something MMY says that I've somehow
> > > > > > managed to miss?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yeah, whatever happened to the gap gets bigger and
> > > > > bigger?
> > > > 
> > > > Ask Barry; he's a former TM teacher.  Maybe
> > > > that's what he taught his students.  Sure is
> > > > news to me.
> > > 
> > > What in the hell is all this distorted TM "teaching"?
> > > Are you guys that are spouting this TM teachers?
> > > Because MMY never, ever mentioned this stuff in the
> > > context of explaining experiences during meditation.
> >  
> > yeah, I don't remember a word of it either, and that's after 
> > hundreds of hours of tapes, reading his books, etc.
> 
> It's a cyberstalking thang, Jim.  :-)
> 
> I just used a phrase that I'd heard from many TMers
> who had grown concerned that "because thoughts mean
> release of stress, does lack of thoughts indicate
> no progress in the release of stress?"

The phrase in its original context:

"For the dyed-in-the-wool TMer, CONVINCED that the
absence of thoughts indicates an absence of
'progress,' this might not be an admirable thing."
(emphasis added)






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