excellent starting point!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<curtisdeltabl...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
> <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > you are trying so hard today, curt, and your reward is due--
enjoy a
> > banana!
>
> Who is Curt?
>
>
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
> > > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > your definitions all sound so monkey-like. here's a banana,
my
> > > > little chiquita.
> > > >
> > > > enlightenment is that state of consciousness in which a
person
> > no
> > > > longer identifies with, and gets lost in, the objects of
> > perception. >
> > >
> > > You know this sounds like a made-up problem to solve. I never
met
> > > anyone who was lost in or identified with the objects of
> > perception.
> > > Someone would have an unimaginable pathological lack of self
> > awareness
> > > for this to be a problem.
> > >
> > > I mean this seriously because it is one of the fundamental
> > > presuppositions of Maharishi's teaching. Can anyone here
remember
> > > when this was a problem in your life before TM? I honestly
can't.
> > >
> > >
> > > this can't be accomplished on the thinking level. it is not
about
> > >
> > > thinking, imagining, believing, denying, or hallucinating.
> > > >
> > > > the most effective way to establish that state is by
alternating
> > the
> > > > practice of transcending with activity. the easiest way to
do
> > this
> > > > is through the regular (2x a day) practice of Transcendental
> > > > Maditation, or TM.
> > >
> > > I have heard this exact phrase somewhere before but I just
can't
> > place
> > > it...
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
<no_reply@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
> > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Seriously, I would like to hear each person's
definition
> > in one
> > > > > > > or two sentences please.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (we already know Vaj is going to inscrutably say " "
> > > > > > > And Sal is going to say "A good BLT sandwich"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ...but what is the definition from the rest of you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Enlightenment -- a fluid, everchanging subjective
> > > > > > state of mind that has no qualities or attributes
> > > > > > except what the claimant of having attained it
> > > > > > claims it has, and no benefits for the claimant
> > > > > > or society other than what the claimant says it
> > > > > > has. The only important thing is that other people
> > > > > > must view the person who has claimed enlightenment
> > > > > > as somehow special and better than they are. See
> > > > > > 'unicorn,' and 'UFO sightings.' All in all, a BLT
> > > > > > is more nourishing and better for you, and cheaper.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- The Dictionary of Cutting Through The Bullshit,
> > > > > > Get Real Press, 33rd. edition.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > MORE DEFINITIONS OF ENLIGHTENMENT
> > > > >
> > > > > The Maharishi Mahesh Yogi definition
> > > > > "Enlightenment is exactly as I described it over
> > > > > the years, and it's the same for everyone. It's
> > > > > a steady progression through the states of CC,
> > > > > GC, UC and BC to complete fulfillment. When one
> > > > > reaches that state of full enlightenment, one is
> > > > > able to manifest all of the siddhis and levitate,
> > > > > as I do, and bring all of one's ideas to perfect
> > > > > completion, as I did with Vedaland and so many
> > > > > other projects. That'll be a million dollars, please."
> > > > >
> > > > > The Dumb Blonde definition
> > > > > "Enlightenment is what I say it is. Anyone who
> > > > > says anything different is WRONG, and is just a
> > > > > monkey-mind chattering away. And I know this to
> > > > > be true because my TM initiator, What's-his-name,
> > > > > said so back when I first learned TM, back in
> > > > > Wherever-it-was-ville."
> > > > >
> > > > > The Vaj definition
> > > > > "Enlightenment is what the people I consider
> > > > > enlightened say it is. And it is ONLY what the
> > > > > people I consider enlightened say it is. So there." :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > The TMO definition
> > > > > "Enlightenment is the inevitable result of practicing
> > > > > the TM technique, which is the fastest, easiest, most
> > > > > effective means of attaining enlightenment ever
> > > > > seen on planet Earth. This can be verified by doing
> > > > > scientific tests on all the people we have certified as
> > > > > being fully enlightened over the 53 years of our
> > > > > teaching. Come back a week from some Thursday
> > > > > and we will provide you with a list of their names."
> > > > >
> > > > > Turq's definition
> > > > > "Enlightenment is something that people who (on the
> > > > > whole) have never experienced it like to talk about as
> > > > > if they knew exactly what it was. In general, the more
> > > > > they talk about it as if they know exactly what it is,
> > > > > the less likelihood there is that they have ever had
> > > > > even a fleeting experience of it. Those who *have* had
> > > > > a fleeting experience of what they consider enlighten-
> > > > > ment to be are basically saying that their subjective
> > > > > experience -- whatever it might have been really -- is
> > > > > synonymous with enlightenment because *they* had
> > > > > the experience, and they are so important that if *they*
> > > > > had that experience, it *must* be cool and valuable
> > > > > and special, because *they* are cool and valuable and
> > > > > special. People talk about enlightenment in the same
> > > > > way they talk about unicorns -- they claim to know
> > > > > *exactly* what the unicorn of enlightenment looks
> > > > > like, but can't show you any unicorns so that you can
> > > > > verify that what they are describing is true. You're
> > > > > just supposed to take their word for it that the unicorn
> > > > > they are describing is really enlightenment, because
> > > > > they said it, and they're so special. (On the whole,
> > > > > there is more agreement about what unicorns look
> > > > > like than about what enlightenment looks like.)"
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
