Men who extol 'enlightenment talk' are rarely not on 'hallucinogenics' and never have adequate personal love experience worth talking about. Arhata
http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/ --- On Wed, 1/28/09, enlightened_dawn11 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: From: enlightened_dawn11 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 4:56 PM agreed-- really well said dr. pete. enlightenment is real, viable and experienced- - just not by -thinking- raunchydog, i don't get your comments at all- care to clarify please? --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@ ...> wrote: > > Excellent, Peter. It's exactly the map of the territory Maharishi has > been telling grasshopper, identifying for years with the weeds he's > been smokin'. > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Peter <drpetersutphen@ > wrote: > > > > Enlightenment is not what you think because: > > > > You can not get enlightened. > > > > A thought is necessarily bound by time and space and therefore has > nothing to do with enlightenment. > > > > You can not "model" enlightenment. > > > > So with those caveats..... > > > > In ignorance you are somebody. A psychological private self that > relates to the world. > > > > Then you get 1st stage enlightenment and you are nobody. Actually, > no "you" to be or not to be. Consciousness becomes conscious of its > own consciousness and withdraws identity with any space/time > experience. No-Self. No localization of consciousness. Weird as shit > for the mind. "You" no longer exist, only consciousness within which > everything occurs. > > > > Then you get 2nd stage enlightenment Grasshopper. Now you are > everybody. Consciousness awakens to its bound value of space and time > as simply consciousness. All moving within itself. From "here to here > through there" according to Maharishi. Those are good words. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Peter <drpetersutphen@ > wrote: > > > > > From: Peter <drpetersutphen@ > > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment > > > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com > > > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 8:18 PM > > > Enlightenment is not what you think. > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, ruthsimplicity > > > <no_re...@yahoogroup s.com> wrote: > > > > > > > From: ruthsimplicity <no_re...@yahoogroup s.com> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of > > > enlightenment > > > > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com > > > > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 5:10 PM > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, > > > enlightened_ dawn11 > > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enlightenment is that state of consciousness in > > > which > > > > a person no > > > > > longer identifies with, and gets lost in, the > > > objects > > > > of perception. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This sounds like the "I don't care > > > anymore" > > > > definition of enlightenment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > > FairfieldLife- subscribe@ yahoogroups. com > > > > > > > > Or go to: > > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/FairfieldL ife/ > > > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > FairfieldLife- subscribe@ yahoogroups. com > > > > > > Or go to: > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/FairfieldL ife/ > > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > >
