--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozg...@...> wrote: > > shempmcgurk wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > >> bob_brigante wrote: > >> > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >>> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , "shempmcgurk" > >>> > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Bhairitu, do you really like racist, anti-Semites like Karl Marx? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> ******* > >>> > >>> "Karl Marx was not only Jewish, he was descended from an > >>> > > established > > > >>> rabbinical family. " > >>> > >>> http://www.vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/5/1/Whisker69-76.html > >>> <http://www.vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/5/1/Whisker69-76.html> > >>> > >> Thanks Bob. I figured Shemp was off his rocker but I am actually > >> > > not > > > >> that familiar with Marx and sent the link as joke in reply to his > >> > > joke link. > > > > > > > > Karl Marx was Jewish in the same way that Barack Obama is Muslim. > > > > Yes, Marx's lineage was Jewish but the father converted to > > Catholicism before he was born and his mother's family converted to > > Lutheran. Indeed, the mother's lineage is more important than the > > father's because for those, like Bhairitu, that consider race and > > lineage more important in judging and labelling a person than the > > content of one's character, according to Jewish law if a mother is > > Jewish that automatically makes the child Jewish. > > > > So to call Marx "Jewish" on the basis of his lineage is, of course, > > the same mode of thinking of those racists who call Obama "Muslim" > > because his lineage on his father's side is Muslim...and according to > > Islamic law it is patrilinear descendancy that counts (unlike Jewish > > law in which it is matrilinearly based). > > > > And keep in mind that neither Marx nor Obama consider themselves, > > respectively, as Jewish or Muslim. They choose, instead, to define > > themselves as to their believes, not the dictates of some tradition. > > > > But that doesn't count to racists like Bhairitu who judge people by > > their lineage and/or skin color instead of what that person himself > > decides to label himself. > > > > So, Bhairitu, you and your correspondent, to be consistent, must now > > refer to Barack Obama as a Muslim...and I will continue to remind you > > of that in posts henseforth until you admit your racist error. > > > > Oh, and by the way, it is very well documented that Karl Marx hated > > both Jews and Blacks (whom he often described with the n-word when > > referring to them). The following link is just one article on this. > > Try googling "Karl Marx" with "anti-semite" and "nigger" and you'll > > see how many hits you get: > > > > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50724 > Shemp, for the record I am "racially blind." I grew up in a small > farming community with the children of Mexican laborers. They were my > school buddies. I worked as jazz musician for many years with African > American musicians who were great friends and bright people. I have no > racial biases. I have many Jewish friends and a few Jewish girlfriends > so I am not anti-semitic either.
[snip] Well, well, well. Look who's on the defensive. And invoking the silliest, sorriest "line" of all: "I'm not a racist because some of my best friends are..." Fact is, you judged someone based upon their ancestry which, by the way, is the defining criteria of racism. I've been published internationally in which I've researched and outlined the procedures of discrimination in South Africa, so I know what I'm talking about. Do I think you're a racist? Of course not. Indeed, I think you're basically a good person. But you've been pretty loose and easy in calling me all sorts of names so I thought I'd latch on to something YOU said which is -- whether you realize it or not -- emanating from a racially discriminatory worldview. You labelled someone based upon their ancestry, not the content of their character. This is shameful. And you need to rethink the way you look at the world. Funny, I don't remember YOU or anyone else on this forum coming to my defense when on three separate occasions during the presidential campaign I was called a racist by three different posters here...all because I didn't support Obama or I reproduced an Ann Coulter column. Now everyone is up in arms because I called YOU a racist for actually doing something that IS racist. Ironic, isn't it.
