--- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory
> Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "authfriend" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I recall being told that MMY had once been
> asked
> > > > > why the Absolute had manifested, and he
> responded,
> > > > > "Perhaps for the sake of variety?"
> > > > > 
> > > > > On another occasion he was asked the same
> question.
> > > > > His answer: "It didn't."
> > > > 
> > > > Yes; I especially like the latter reply for
> its multivalence -- 
> > true 
> > > > at (at least) several "levels of
> consciousness" simultaneously. 
> > From 
> > > > the Witness POV ("C.C.") the Absolute has
> nothing to do with 
> the 
> > > > Relative; from Brahman's POV there *is* no
> Absolute and no 
> > > > Relative :-)
> > > 
> > > Nor any POV either, however...
> > 
> > Hm? How so, given Brahman's tendency to collapse
> Wholeness into 
> > Point(s), hence POV ...? (Though technically this
> might be
> > "Krishna" rather than "Brahman," I suppose.) It
> sounds more as if 
> > you are describing "T.C." rather than "Brahman,"
> unless I am 
> > missing your point :-)
> 
> If Brahman is One without a second, how can it
> be said to have a POV?  Having a POV implies
> the existence of a *different* POV, which would
> in turn imply something other than Brahman ("a
> second") to hold that different POV.
> 
> You could say Brahman encompasses *all* POVs, I
> guess.  But not only would that flummox your
> point, you would get into the Four Negations, in
> which Brahman cannot be said either (1) to have a
> POV or (2) no POV, nor (3) all POVs, nor (4) 
> neither a POV nor no POV.  (With apologies to
> Nagarjuna.)

And in the forgoing koan the mind must stop in the
impossibility of comprehending that which is utterly
outside of its capacity to recognize.




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