Arhata,

Despite my not knowing jack shit, one thing I can tell you is that
religions and governments have ALWAYS tried to regulate how the masses
have intoxicated fun.

Why?

It's obvious; getting drunk or high engenders kicking back, and
kicking back is not going to make a good soldier, good cubical worker,
or good all around minion.  

Pot may indeed sully spirituality, but the likes of you, indeed, the
likes of no one on Earth, can prove that assertion.

I did the two weeks without dope before I started TM.  Then I did TM
for a month, and then I tried pot again.  It was startling how
different my meditation became -- didn't like it -- too many thoughts
-- so I choose meditation over dope, and ended up a TMO slave for 30
years -- 30 sober years.

By my reckoning, dope does, as they say, buzz you up, and that is the
opposite of transcending into subtlety, but for me to assert this to
be the truth for everyone would be sheer unscientific folly. 

The TMO can't get your money from you if you're already kicking back
and pretty happy about life.  The TMO disses drugs like the alcohol
manufacturers diss drugs -- for the same fucking reasons.

Your reasons to diss drugs is what?  To put some small touch on your
mask of spiritual acumen cuz everyone knows that a true guru doesn't
seek toxicity?  If so, pity on ya.

To all the dopers out there, ya might be tainting yer good selves,
but, hey, one thing's for sure: whatever the dope does must be equally
matched by the breathing of most cities' atmospheres with the 30,000
chemicals that are allowed by our corporate masters.  To me, there's
nowhere on Earth to escape these chemicals, and the small amount more
additional dope damage -- if any -- is insignificant.

And, the welling up of generous feelings etc. that the dope stimulates
are true emotions despite the artificiality of their manifestation,
and to me, that's real world profit that serves all of us deeply in
ways we know not of.

They call alcohol "spirits" for a reason.  And even though Carlos
Castaneda was a lying creep, he taught me that ANYTHING in our lives
is spiritually impacting.  The kind of car you drive can affect your
path in life as much as the beer you drink.

To me, pot heads are talking to a very nice spirit -- channeling
him/her/it.  

If you want to know the skinny on "feeling jiggy RIGHT FUCKING NOW,"
are you going to ask a nun, a priest, a guru, or a hippy?

Case closed.

Edg



--- In [email protected], Arhata Osho
<arhatafreespe...@...> wrote:
>
> 'Chronic' pot use - hmmm....casual pot use of, let say a couple
times a week
> (non medical) is a problem.  Love the smell but, wouldn't be with a
woman who
> was doing it twice a week or, smoking - both are brain, emotional,
and neuro
> altering.
> Arhata
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>     
>             Om, that spirituality place found in the brain.  Two of
the more 
> 
> interesting links on FFL in recent times have gone to brain and neuro 
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> research on meditation by non-TM researchers.
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> 
> I'd bet a dollar or a box of donuts that, when looked at further, 
> 
> chronic pot use corrupts or at least interferes with the brain 
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> function of spirituality.  It is just science. Neuro- physiology.   
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> And like, you can see it in the auric field.  Can't you ?  
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> > Don't ya think, given the incredible strength of the concentrated 
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> > drug delivery in the modern hybrid pot plant, there evidently ought 
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> > to be at least a 30 day drug-abstinence policy prior to being able 
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> to 
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> > learn to meditate.  Like, you can just see it in pot users.  Two 
> 
> week 
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> > pot-abstinence simply is not enough to protect their experience. 
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> > Administratively, 30 or 45 days might as well become mandatory for 
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> > prospective meditators or else is just a waste of the meditation 
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> > teacher's time.
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> > 
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> > & can now easily test for pot residue in the system at the time of 
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> > personal instruction, much like in the workplace it can be tested 
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> for 
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> > or in traffic stops now for law-enforcement.  That intoxication of 
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> > the altered state of brain function of the high aside, the chemical 
> 
> > drug residues of past pot use stick around quite a long time in the 
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> > system.  Is evidently a corruptor of more than innocence, the 
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> > meditation program.
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> > 
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> > A life opportunity of coming to meditation and the meditation 
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> > experience itself is so especially precious a human right 
> 
> > (inalienable) that pot users everywhere need to be looked after for 
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> > their own welfare; as well as looking to that larger communal 
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> welfare 
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> > of society.  Because after all is said, being born free in the 
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> > potential of meditating with a clear mind and clean nervous system 
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> is 
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> > a shame to `waste' with pot.  Is of criminal proportion against 
> 
> > humanity.   Is this that is the large difference between just some 
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> > altered state and those spiritually exalted  states of experience 
> 
> > natural to human beings.  Pot is nothing short of corruption.  
> 
> Simply 
> 
> > is the science and experience of it, and let the due process of law 
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> > convict pot use as a malefic everywhere in civil society.  Pot use, 
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> > it's a sin against all that is spiritual and good in humanity. 
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> > 
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> > Jai Guru Dev,
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> > > The simple explanation is that:
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> > > 
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> > > Pervasive use of modern powerful pot is the larger spiritual 
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> > societal 
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> > > problem with people not meditating anymore.  Folks just don't 
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> have 
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> > > transcendent spiritual experiences anymore or are hazy at best 
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> with 
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> > pot 
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> > > use.
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> > > Yeah, that Designer pot use and its addiction in society…
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> > > 
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> > > Is too bad.
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> > > > Oh, regulate it like a real drug.
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> > > > Marijuana Addicts Anonymous:
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> > > >  http://www.marijuan a-anonymous. org/
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> om
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