In a message dated 6/30/05 6:57:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> What beatings?

its a saying, meaning not only does the end always justify the means,
but too that the actions so undertaken determine their own outcome.

Violence to solve problems is an addiction. Just say No.

Well Geee! That's why I suggested the indictments and therapy  along with initiating them etc. That way we could get them to first open up to us and then change for the better. Just think what we could do if Camp Gitmo were redesigned  with SV in mind and these poor souls were able to have Pancha Karma!


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