--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
> >
> > TurquoiseB wrote:
> > >
> > > So they're trying to reinvent the wheel with a
> > > Java for the Web. :-)
> > >
> > > Probably because IBM is trying to buy Sun, and
> > > will soon own Java.
> >
> > Maybe they will fix it. Java is very weak and hard to
> > use for GUIs. I don't think JavaFX helped that much.
>
> Maybe they will. I am still on the periphery
> of IBM because I'm a consultant and not an
> employee, but in terms of "business ethics" and
> "trying to do a good job" I have to admit that
> I have been impressed so far.
>
> All of our products have to be "Blue Washed"
> before they can be sold through IBM channels.
> So what does that entail? Well, for one thing,
> it involves scouring through every line of code
> for every application, and all of the icons in
> its GUIs, ferchrissakes, to determine if they
> were really "invented here."
>
> "Borrowed code," even if legitimately borrowed
> from Open Source software, does not get a "pass."
> And if you borrowed from something like the Sun
> Java libraries (as one of our products did,
> completely legitimately), that also does not get
> a "pass." IBM is going to force those developers
> to sit in a room with the spec and reverse
> engineer the routines they previously borrowed
> to make sure that there is no *possible* ques-
> tion of ownership.
>
> I find this impressive, having seen its opposite
> at Microsoft and Computer Associates. I also find
> the *quality* of the IBM employees I've been
> meeting and interacting with online rather
> impressive. And I am Not Easily Impressed.
>
> A lot of these people came out of Watson Labs,
> which is one of the great "thinktank" organi-
> zations on the planet.
>
> Have you ever been on a conference call in which
> you had occasion to suspect *most* of the people
> on the call of being geniuses? Neither had I,
> until recently.
>
> IBM's bureaucracy is sometimes infuriating. I can
> tell you that fersure. But SO FAR, their integrity
> about doing business and the level of people I have
> been meeting who are doing that business have been
> very impressive indeed. So if there is any company
> that can fix Java, they might just be it. This is
> definitely "not your father's IBM."
>


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Definitely not your father's IBM, but maybe Deepak's father:

IBM: The "I" stands for India:

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