--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltabl...@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote:
> >
> <snip>
> > 
> > TM is a delicate practice of innocence. If doubt festers about one's 
> > practice, a bottomless pit of questions escalates anger and destroys 
> > innocence.
> 
> Questions lead to anger?  Not for me, it leads to answers or at least the joy 
> of delineating the areas I am lacking knowledge.
> 
> As far as the need for innocence in TM goes, I might be a poster child for 
> being one of the least innocent people here concerning the practice, but in 
> my experience, my TM practice is the same as it ever was when I was 
> "innocent" about the whole thing.  I believe that this is another area of 
> Maharishi where he was being self-serving by trying to instill a phobia about 
> questioning he authority.  It is a pretty common tactic among group leaders 
> to shut people up.
> 
> < A question masks an irritation, an itch you just can't scratch.>
> 
> I love you like a sista Raunchy but this is blatant BS!  Where did you get 
> such a negitive view of being curious?  (Oh, yeah I know!)
> 
> < Some folks are just naturally itchier than others are. They can't help it. 
> I wonder if irritable folks>
> 
> Whoa there Nelly!  Equating people who have questions with being "irritable" 
> is slippery at best and a bit sinister at worst.  Think about the 
> implications of this equation. It is a blatant thought stopper and unworthy 
> of your otherwise lively curious mind. 
> 
>  <could just get past those pesky questions long enough to do enough TM 
> regularly, they just might be a little less crabby about TM. Maybe not, it 
> didn't seem to work out that way for Edg.>
> 
> The intellectual questions about Maharishi's teaching that I have have 
> nothing to do with the pejorative "crabby."  So no practice is needed to 
> reduce crabbiness.  ( I know you were directing this towards Edg who could be 
> characterized as being crabby in some post in general, but I am defending him 
> in the specific case of his questions about Maharishi's teaching which have 
> their own intellectual legitimacy outside any mood.)
> 

I don't have any problem with intellectual curiosity. Yours is certainly well 
developed and I appreciate you for that. But did you ever have to deal with a 
child refusing to let go of, "But WHY Mommy?" Finally Mommy says, "Well, just 
because I said so."  Mommy absorbed the child's escalating irritation instead 
of acknowledging the reason for badgering. "What's bothering you, honey?" It's 
usually diaper itch...every time.

> > Maharishi did everything he could to answer questions for the sake of 
> > innocent practice.
> 
> Actually he did a lot to avoid questions for the sake of "innocent practice." 
>  Another phrase for innocent might be "poorly informed."
> 
> < For a few, no matter what he said, it wasn't going to be good enough.>
> 
> 
> Considering the fact that only a few ever continued his practice beyond their 
> first year you may want to rephrase that "No matter how much he said, it was 
> only good enough for a few."
> 
> 
> I'm sure you get my larger point here Raunchy.  I am wary of people who set 
> up conditions to limit my legitimate desire to ask questions and know more 
> about any aspect of my life.  You might be interested in the difference 
> between first degree and second degree naivete. I'm a fan of the latter.
> 
> 
> 
>  <It's interesting that as long as Barry blithely meditated for 
> "self-discovery"...no problem...TM was just fine by him.  Too bad, he became 
> a teacher and he let cognitive dissonance bamboozled his innocence. Although 
> I'm sure he probably sees it as a victory over evil.
> > 
> > Marooned on an island and never knowing anything about TM except innocent 
> > practice, would Barry still practice TM or would he have found a way to 
> > talk himself out of it, hankering to attend church regularly and ask God's 
> > forgiveness him for practicing Hinduism? I guess you just can't do much 
> > about karma. Peace, Brother Barry.
> >
>


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