--- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams" <willy...@...> wrote:
So you are thinking that a bunch of people here are interested enough in TM to post regularly concerning their detailed opinions of where Maharishi got it wrong... with no detailed exposure to his system of thought? Do I have that right? That a guy like Vaj who has been posting his POV online for decades didn't at one time have a lot of chips on the golden tables of Seelisberg, but somehow got spontaneously fascinated enough to post on TM forums regularly and in detail refuting the specific practice of TM from his new perspective gained from his years of practice of other techniques? And now he is required to provide more info that could blow his cover on an online forum because he has not been parroting the party line here and dares to use phrases of his own to describe his own perspective of TM and the goals of meditation? The lack of interest in Vaj's perspective I see here, the polemic gamesmanship used to try to discredit him personally rather than address the points he has brought up, reveals an anti-intellectual bias that reminds me of a political machine. I know that he returns fire and I'm sure I'll be deluged with his many online sins for defending him here. But here you have a guy who is waaaay into meditation and is obviously very sharp, and I don't sense a shred of curiosity about his detailed perspective among the people here who claim to be waaaaay into self development? BIG WTF? Did everyone miss the "compare and contrast" angle in your education? An intellectual resource is being squandered on both sides here. On a forum with people who have done TM for decades, and some who have done it for 15 years or more and then went into other techniques to compare TM to, the best we can produce intellectually is: Show me you dome badge buddy!? > > Vaj wrote: > > > It's probably time for a TM and mantra > > > meditation FAQ... > > > > raunchydog wrote: > > Vaj, Your superior tone is nothing more than > > delusions grandeur. You think you know about > > TM. You don't. By the way when and where did > > you do TTC? Did you ever teach anyone TM? > > Where and when was that? If you're a TM teacher, > > as Judy says you claim, you've seriously fallen > > off the wagon. Answer straight up or expose > > yourself as a fraud. > > > Yeah, let's get some facts straight here. I've > seen no evidence that any of the current > informants here were ever at TTC, or even a > student at MIU or even a *basic* TMer. Do any > of you have a 'dome badge', a school transcript, > a receipt, canceled check, or anything you can > post? > > You would think that the anonymous posters like > Vaj could post *something* to prove their status > in the TMO or even tell us their name. Lon P. > Stacks claimed he was the MIU 'printer' at the > 'Manor' in Livingston. He claimed he printed > the 'Orange Book'. Can you believe that? > > I am TM initiate #214 in the U.S.A., according > to Beaulah Smith, and I meditate regularly in > the 'Maharishi Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge', > at Radiance, Texas and I can prove it. > > I've seen a photo of BillyG shaking hands with > Charles F. Lutes, and I've seen a leaflet with > Barry Wright's picture on it. Kirk posted a > graduation photo of himself at MUM. >
