On Mar 29, 2009, at 9:56 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:

--- In [email protected], Vaj wrote:


 The pundit kindly replied
'oh, but don't you know you can never
have effortlessness except in
nondual meditation?' He briefly explained
the difference between meditation with an
object and the advaita View of nondual
contemplation. Quite embarrassing, but
unquestionably true when
understood.

I don't get it. Have you elaborated on the
above points elsewhere? If not, could you
explain a little more here?

Thanks.

It is the inescapable nature of any meditation form with supports/ props--any, not just TM--that if there are supports, alambanas, i.e. an object of meditation and a meditator who meditates through some method on an object (breath, visualization, mantra), there will always be some (subtle) effort involved. The only case where there is no effort is in higher forms of nondual mediation, often referred to as contemplation, as the nature of the meditation is quite different.

Some schools of meditation actually consider meditation forms which are too slack to be dangerous, as they allow defects to arise.

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