--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Nelson" <nelsonriddle2001@> wrote:
> >
> > With all the knowledge and experience here assembled,
> > have there been many cases of someone having "a
> > meaningless sound" come to them which produced the
> > same results as official initiation?
>
> Not to be insulting, but I think your
> question is a bit too TM-centric in that
> it assumes a mantra as a mechanism for
> meditation.
>
> I would guess that out of the many tech-
> niques of meditation designed to produce
> transcendence I've learned, less than a
> third of them used a mantra.
>
> So, in answer to your question, I have
> found "on my own" (not as a result of
> being taught these things by a teacher
> or in a class) many different focuses
> or "mechanisms" for meditation that pro-
> duced samadhi or transcendence. None of
> them involved a mantra. Some involved
> sound. I once transcended for hours late
> at night in an office on Wall Street in
> New York by opening the window and
> meditating on the sounds of the city.
> Go figure.
>
Thanks T.
Just wondering if transcending comes to everyone eventually without effort or
expense where it would fit in properly instead of getting into it on someones
advice and having odd results like people here who, instead of enjoying the
benefits in their life, continue to debate minute details to death.