--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltabl...@...> 
wrote:

Apologies to Robert for my incorrect clipping that made it look like he wrote 
my drivel!  Sorry Robert! 

>
The following DOES NOT reflect the views of Robert, and I am wholly, but 
obviously NOT holy, responsible for them.
 
> I don't see any attempt to distinguish Saint Teresa of Avilla internal 
> experiences from descriptions of people with mental illness or even the most 
> mild form of skepticism about these reports that we all apply to the daily 
> news concerning events that just happened reported by eye witnesses.
> 
> At best we have a beautiful metaphor for the internal experience she was 
> having that some people seem to value. (Her descriptions seem horrific to me 
> and indicate a need for professional intervention IMO.)  At worst we have a 
> PT Barnum attempt to promote belief in an event with no controls that defy 
> our common sense.  The epistemological basis is "the self-proclaimed witness 
> asserted it."
> 
> 
> The stories about Saint Teresa of Avilla are just that, stories.  To take 
> them as literal facts is insulting to our intelligence today.  Like the magic 
> carpet in the fables of the Mid East, I can accept these tales as inspiring 
> metaphors for our human spirit (however you want to define that.)  But rugs 
> and people don't fly, and asserting that they literally do grounds humanity 
> to our most ignorant past rather than inspire us to raise our knowledge level 
> with all the tools we have discovered.  We can do better than to accept a 
> preposterous claim because someone a long time claimed it in the self-serving 
> context of their favorite "Saint."
> 
> 
> >
> > Levitation is the ability to identify completely with Spirit...
> > This must have been the experience of Saint Teresa of Avilla for example.
> >  
> > One translation of Pantajali's is:
> >  
> > 'By concentrating on the relation of the body to the all-pervading Ether, 
> > and, thinking of small and light objects such as the fibres of cotton-wool, 
> > the yogi is able to travel through space'.
> > This sounds 'Scientific enough; as the Sanskrit writers were very precise, 
> > in their way...
> >  
> > I am thinking that the same vibrational essence of levitation, as 
> > spontaneously produced by Teresa of Avilla, through her own descriptions of 
> > the experience...
> > Could  be the onenes of the manifestation of:  'Lightness of Spirit'.
> > I am sure any levitation demonstration, would be profound, as it was in 
> > Saint Teresa's day...
> >  
> > This is one of the ways, we can think of this concept of transforming Homo 
> > Sapien to Homo Spiritus.
> >  
> > From a concept called 'Homo Sapien to Homo Spiritus'...
> >  
> > From 'Veronica in Sonoma:
> >  
> > Eloheim has taught for some time that we are moving from homo sapiens to 
> > homo spiritus. They have also taught that “you can’t have change 
> > without change.”Eloheim has taught for some time that we are moving from 
> > homo sapiens to homo spiritus. They have also taught that “you can’t 
> > have change without change.”
> >  
> > http://eloheim.info/wordpress/
> >
>


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