--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Hugo" <richardhughes103@> wrote:
<snip>
> > Boy, talk about missing the point!
> 
> Call me cynical, but I don't think she 
> missed the point at all. I thought that,
> for once, she was being extraordinarily
> honest in her first sentence: "OK, I'll 
> comment on it (in a desperate attempt to, 
> you know, derail the conversation)."

And pretty successfully, too!

(Poor Barry. If nobody wants to discuss
his latest theory, it must be *my* fault.)

> > I thought it was a great analogy about what it's
> > like to join the TMO without knowing what it's 
> > really like and then having the drip-drip of 
> > weirdness grow ever more difficult to bear 
> > before hopping out.
> 
> And, even if it's a myth, myths are *useful*
> in attempting to understand the process of
> systematic denial that we have all, to some
> extent or another, gone through with regard
> to the TM organization.

This particular myth is useful in a very wide
range of contexts, so many that it's become
hackneyed (you know, the kind of analogy hacks
use).
 
> You'll also have to excuse me if I find the
> claim by the person who has devoted pretty
> much every day of her life for 15 years to
> defending TM, the TM organization and Maha-
> rishi and demonizing its critics saying, 
> "For some of us, of course, the water became 
> uncomfortable very early on, and we jumped 
> out..." ludicrous.

It would be ludicrous if things were as Barry
described, but of course they aren't, not by
a very long shot.

> Judy never "jumped out." She merely distanced
> herself from the hot water, both physically
> and emotionally.

<guffaw> Kinda hard to distance oneself from
a pot of hot water without jumping out of it.

(Barry's brains are still fried. Amazing. The
older he gets, the longer it takes for him to
recover.)

 She continues, "...although 
> we still find moderately hot water useful for, 
> say, making tea and washing dishes. As long 
> as we don't have to be *immersed* in it."
> 
> In other words, as long as she didn't have to
> be "immersed" in the TM movement and could
> distance herself from it, she was not only 
> OK with its excesses and evils, she was wil-
> ling to make excuses for them on a regular 
> basis. They were just "moderately hot water," 
> and even "useful."

Er, no, I was referring to the techniques,
not the TMO's "excesses and evils."

Ooopsie!

And of course Barry and everyone else who reads
my posts knows it's not true that I'm OK with
the TMO's excesses and evils, and that I very
rarely "make excuses" for them (meaning: object
to wildly unreasonable demonization of them).

What the heck is it that you *get* out of lying
all the time, Barry?


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