--- In [email protected], "guyfawkes91" <guyfawke...@...> wrote: > > >> > it would not detract from the significance of the work. > >> > > The significance of the work needs to be seen in its proper context. > > It is a well known fact amongst the educated that it's trivially easy to find > spurious connections between things. For example a straight six cylinder > engine is naturally balanced (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_six) > so if I wanted to be mischievous I could say the six systems of Indian > Philosophy match the six cylinders of a straight six and the fact that it's > naturally balanced is the result of it therefore being in harmony with all > the laws of nature.
ha,ha,,,,,crackin' up here! If I wanted to hunt about in the engine bay I bet I could find something with 10 components, maybe the fan, and then I could say "Wonder of wonders! the 10 avatars of Vishnu are embodied in this fan, this vehicle represents the totality of knowledge". It's an interesting exercise to look at common inanimate objects, or maybe living things that aren't human and do the same trick that Tony Nader has done in his books. Ants have six legs and three main body segments, six systems and Rishi-Devata-Chandas perhaps? Of course! :-) A bike has two wheels, maybe the two fullnesses of the absolute and the relative? If I have a bike with 10 gears I could argue that it's the embodiment of the 10 avatars of Vishnu linking together the two fullnesses of absolute and relative through the principle of action or karama. You can get carried away with this kind of thing. It should be an exercise for MUM students to find an object at random and then write an essay that links it to the structure of the Veda and then write a similar essay that links it to Moby Dick or the New York telephone directory or their favorite film. Ha, ha..............best humor all year! (Splitting a gut here.) > In "A mathematician reads the newspapers" by John Allen Poulos there's a good > example of how to use similar false logic to fool people. He shows in detail > how the trick is done and how to "prove" the the human body is cosmic. It's > the cognitive equivalent of a card trick but played with ideas not cards. > That's why I wrote that thing on Harry Potter & human physiology > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/173641), to point out > that Tony Nader's stuff is a tragic joke. > > Getting excited by this kind of thing is the equivalent of people getting > excited by images of Jesus in a slice of toast or the Virgin Mary in a damp > patch on a wall somewhere. One can only feel pity for people who allow their > intelligence to be so degraded that they think it's significant. > > Let's get down to detail;- > > For example; The 10 avatars of Vishnu are represented in human physiology? > Human physiology is pretty much the same as other great apes, so that means > the 10 avatars of Vishnu are represented in the physiology of all great apes. > Great apes have been around for a long time, maybe 10-15 million years. Has > their physiology changed each time a new avatar turned up? Was human > physiology different before Krisha appeared on the scene, if so what happened > to people who were alive at the time he was born. Did their internal organs > re-arrange themselves at the moment of his birth or at the moment of > conception? How did this re-arranging influence spread out? Did it take time > for people alive on the other side of the world to have their physiologies > reconfigured? > > False reasoning can take you on a pretty wild trip. If you're willing to turn > your intelligence off then Tony Nader's stuff sounds great. It has the words > "veda" and "science" in the same paragraphs, sometimes even in the same > sentences, so it sounds really profound. But if you turn your intelligence > back on and start looking at the arguments closely then it all falls to > pieces. > > No one who actually knows about human physiology and how to structure a > viable argument would give any kind of credence to his ideas. The fact that > he has been honored so highly is a pretty clear indication that clear > thinking in the movement is a punishable crime. The movement will never ever > have any kind of academic respect as long as these ideas are held to be true. > > In combination with Bevan and John Hagelin, Tony Nader has reduced the status > of MUM to the gutter. >
