off_world_beings wrote:
> --- In [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> , Bhairitu <noozg...@...> wrote:
>
>> scienceofabundance wrote:
>>
>>> --- In [email protected]
>>>
> <mailto:[email protected]> , "Richard J. Williams"
> <willytex@> wrote:
>
>>>> So, let's review: in basic TM you get the single
>>>> seed sound and the fertilizer and you get the
>>>> simple instructions for the correct angle to
>>>> dive. You do NOT get any supposed 'nicknames of
>>>> the gods', or any esoteric metaphysics.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I still don't see why the "single sound" [BTW, I never did get a
>>>
> single sound....I must have received a special deal.] needs a fertilizer
> - a word that was the only answer ever given by TM teachers - as if
> repeating the same word over and over again would make the mechanics
> obvious.
>
>>> Could you explain your reasoning as to 1) why the fertilizer is
>>>
> needed; 2) how it works - rather than simply repeating the word
> "fertilizer"? Repetition is not explanation (except maybe for some TM
> teachers....:).
>
>>> I have never been asked to discriminate among all the elements of my
>>>
> mantra/fertilizers - following your classification - when meditating
> (not that I could anyway), so I meditate with the technique given and
> my combination of fertilizers with meanings and one meaningless sound.
>
>>> Can you explain your reasoning as to what effect the fertilizers -
>>>
> which have meaning - have on the technique of TM? Since one of the
> principal repetitions/explanations of the TMO is the importance of a
> meaningless sound/mantra, the effects of using such a mantra with
> fertilizers that _have_ meaning needs some explanation to have your
> reasoning make sense.
>
>>> [Another piece of "information" that I recall hearing repeatedly in
>>>
> the TMO was that the TM technique consisted of 1) a mantra; and 2) a
> technique to use the mantra. Based on your classification, my TM
> technique consists of 1) a mantra and some fertilizers; and 2) a
> technique to use these mantras/fertilizers. However, I definitely don't
> remember that description ever being given.]
>
>>> Science
>>>
>> Pardon me for butting in with your fun with Willy who really has no
>>
> clue
>
>> when it comes to mantra shastra but the "advanced" techniques are more
>> like the mantras traditionally given to the public by yogis and
>>
> tantrics
>
>> in India. Except that the ones given by yogis and tantrics have
>> Omkara: begin with "Om" which contrary to popular belief does not
>>
> cause poverty. >>
>
> Especially if you don't know how to incant it properly. Then it has very
> little effect whatsoever.
>
> OffWorld
Om rhymes with home but a lot of people probably seeing it spelled aum
pronounce it as if it rhymes with bomb and with that pronunciation makes
it in Sanskrit a word for fruit. :-D
